[Evolvedx27]

just to clarify. if a dealership can build the car and submit an order that means they have an allocation correct? if it doesnt go through then obviously no allocation? they also can look in their workbench/global connect to see if they got an allocation before even going through the process of trying to build the car correct? thanks

[Lou A]

Originally Posted by jesusmetal777

Dude, we'll get you into a Phase 1 at MSRP yet. Not sure if I mentioned it already in this thread but Castle has a second Phase 1 build that went to TRE 3000 yesterday and my salesman will gladly sell it to you at MSRP. Color is Summit White. If that's not your color, PM me the list of dealers you've scratched off your list and I'd be happy to help you out.

Thanks, Im not getting upset about it because I have owned summer only cars, bikes and boats(largest waste of money out there) and the season does not start until march anyways, and that's if were lucky. I decided to just stick with the dealer close to my house and wait it out. I believe he did the best he could for me, if not he has the lying skills of an Illinois Politician. I went to Ziggler, Jennings, Piemonte, called McCue and my boss talked to his guy who sells him Cadillac's who first said he can get the car from there sister store but soon called back with the can't get the car until the spring story. Thanks for looking out but White is not for me but I'm sure there are plenty of people that would love to grab that.

[jesusmetal777]

Originally Posted by Evolvedx27

just to clarify. if a dealership can build the car and submit an order that means they have an allocation correct?

My answer = incorrect. my understanding is that any dealer can submit an order (i.e. Order status 1100, 1101, 1102) regardless of whether they have an allocation.

Originally Posted by Evolvedx27

if it doesnt go through then obviously no allocation?

My answer = not necessarily. Order status = 2000 "Accepted by Chevrolet" would be equivalent to what you are describing as "going through." There are no status codes between 1102 and 2000. But there are other factors I'm sure that affect whether an order goes from "submitted" to "Accepted by Chevrolet," such as constraint items (e.g. exposed CF hood insert), or maybe a bottleneck at point of production?

Originally Posted by Evolvedx27

they also can look in their workbench/global connect to see if they got an allocation before even going through the process of trying to build the car correct? thanks

I believe you are correct, however keep in mind that allocations for the Gen6 ZL1 (so far) have been handled differently than any other car, as attested to by multiple forum members in other threads. Also, I have no prior experience with this process with any other vehicle so I am learning as I go. Becky has stated "the number of allocations a dealer has would only be known to that dealer," but I honestly don't know if a dealer can see his/her own allocations in Workbench/Global Connect (like they normally would on other vehicles) or if the ZL1 allocations are "word of mouth" only from their GM rep. I am curious if anyone can address this question.

[OminouSS]

Originally Posted by jesusmetal777

My answer = incorrect. my understanding is that any dealer can submit an order (i.e. Order status 1100, 1101, 1102) regardless of whether they have an allocation.



My answer = not necessarily. Order status = 2000 "Accepted by Chevrolet" would be equivalent to what you are describing as "going through." There are no status codes between 1102 and 2000. But there are other factors I'm sure that affect whether an order goes from "submitted" to "Accepted by Chevrolet," such as constraint items (e.g. exposed CF hood insert), or maybe a bottleneck at point of production?



I believe you are correct, however keep in mind that allocations for the Gen6 ZL1 (so far) have been handled differently than any other car, as attested to by multiple forum members in other threads. Also, I have no prior experience with this process with any other vehicle so I am learning as I go. Becky has stated "the number of allocations a dealer has would only be known to that dealer," but I honestly don't know if a dealer can see his/her own allocations in Workbench/Global Connect (like they normally would on other vehicles) or if the ZL1 allocations are "word of mouth" only from their GM rep. I am curious if anyone can address this question.

I wonder the same thing. I hound my dealer 1x per week minimum to see if I bumped to 2000 and his answer is GM will let him know and he will in turn, let me know. The process is killing me.

Truth be told, I am kind of keen to let the excitement build.

[jesusmetal777]

Originally Posted by OminouSS

I wonder the same thing. I hound my dealer 1x per week minimum to see if I bumped to 2000 and his answer is GM will let him know and he will in turn, let me know. The process is killing me.

Forgive me if you've already answered this in another thread, but I'm curious when did you submit your build for 1100?

[Naturday13]

Does anyone know approximately how many 2017 ZL1's will be made?

[DenverTaco07]

Originally Posted by Naturday13

Does anyone know approximately how many 2017 ZL1's will be made?

At this time, production is not limited....they will fill all orders.

[Naturday13]

Originally Posted by DenverTaco07

At this time, production is not limited....they will fill all orders.

Thanks man.

[speedyman]

Originally Posted by DenverTaco07

At this time, production is not limited....they will fill all orders.

Pretty true of any domestic. Who has ever really wanted any model of GM, Ford, or Mopar and been shut out because there were ultimately too few of them built.

[thompstl1]

Originally Posted by OminouSS

I honestly don't know if a dealer can see his/her own allocations in Workbench/Global Connect (like they normally would on other vehicles) or if the ZL1 allocations are "word of mouth" only from their GM rep. I am curious if anyone can address this question.

My dealer let me look at a piece of paper that was from GM. The piece of paper said they had 3 allocations. Two coupes with automatic transmissions, and 1 convertible and I THINK I remember it said the convertible could be either manual or automatic.

So it would appear the dealer's allocations are more formal than word of mouth.

[mlee]

Originally Posted by thompstl1

My dealer let me look at a piece of paper that was from GM. The piece of paper said they had 3 allocations. Two coupes with automatic transmissions, and 1 convertible and I THINK I remember it said the convertible could be either manual or automatic.

So it would appear the dealer's allocations are more formal than word of mouth.

It's in the system (probably where they printed it from). Otherwise they wouldn't be able to place the order against it.

[speedyman]

The "allocation" thing can be quite misleading as it is often a dynamic process and rarely ever etched in stone from the start of any sales run. Additional "allocations" are made available to dealers as an adjustment for sales volume. Classic example of this was the early days of the GT500s. 3,000 allocations to start, increased to 5,000, then 7,000. Ultimately nearly 11,000 units were allocated and sold with the help of some 0% financing July/August of 2007. Retailers love the "allocation" terminology as it creates an illusion of scarcity and false demand. Another term to be ignored by a potential buyer is "limited production". Pony Cars are mass produced, bang 'em out assembly line items. Ford, GM, and Mopar can build cars like these in any quantity that the public will consume. Our big three automakers are not and have never been on a mission to build fewer units of any vehicle they market with the intent of providing buyers with a rare collectable, instant classic. that is not how the auto industry works or survives.

[DenverTaco07]

Originally Posted by speedyman

The "allocation" thing can be quite misleading as it is often a dynamic process and rarely ever etched in stone from the start of any sales run. Additional "allocations" are made available to dealers as an adjustment for sales volume. Classic example of this was the early days of the GT500s. 3,000 allocations to start, increased to 5,000, then 7,000. Ultimately nearly 11,000 units were allocated and sold with the help of some 0% financing July/August of 2007. Retailers love the "allocation" terminology as it creates an illusion of scarcity and false demand. Another term to be ignored by a potential buyer is "limited production". Pony Cars are mass produced, bang 'em out assembly line items. Ford, GM, and Mopar can build cars like these in any quantity that the public will consume. Our big three automakers are not and have never been on a mission to build fewer units of any vehicle they market with the intent of providing buyers with a rare collectable, instant classic. that is not how the auto industry works or survives.

right, but every once in awhile....
Ford GT

[Dwille]

I'm hunting for an A10 allocation. Without much luck! I know things will free up at some point. I'm hoping for sooner rather than later.