05-24-2016, 10:21 AM | #113 |
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Kind of a straw man argument there. Those guys are not professional drivers. Look at the ring times. The ZR1 and C6Z06 put a beatdown on the z/28.
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05-24-2016, 10:24 AM | #114 |
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But none of us are professional drivers, are we? And the Ring is very, very long....most of us are more likely to end up somewhere like VIR, Willow, or Laguna Seca.
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05-24-2016, 10:33 AM | #115 | |
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I'm agreeing with you but I thought they sold. Either way my point remains valid. Some cars make money by selling out, some make money by drawing people in for the bait and switch. Either way, the dealers aren't complaining.
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True the ring is very long, so I will stick with Laguna Seca and Randy's lap times for internet bench racing lol. |
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05-24-2016, 10:51 AM | #117 |
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Well I haven't driven the C6Z06 Or the gen5 z/28 but being an anonymous person on the internet and therefore an expert I don't think the Camaro is in the same league. The lighting lap issue makes for some fun keyboard/ magazine racing but it's more for fun than an actual indication of the cars prowess. Do you really think a gen 5 Z/28 out performs a C6 Z06?
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I have to review the lightning lap times...they might be fun...but they are probably the most objective comparison between a myriad of performance cars around the same track. Results can sometimes be surprising! |
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05-24-2016, 12:43 PM | #120 | |
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That's why people use the ring. It's long, incredibly demanding on the vehicle and the driver and generally since the manufacturers are paying big bucks for track time and bragging rights they send the best drivers they can. This is fun I can't wait to bench race the new Z's on here LOL
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05-24-2016, 12:54 PM | #121 | |
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Willow and other smaller tracks don't allow for sustained 150+mph speeds. |
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05-24-2016, 02:35 PM | #122 | |
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If CAFE stays how it is currently on the books then the other brands will have follow suit to some degree in the next generations. CAFE is all political so that can change with the next President or Congress but the trend to higher fuel economy is on the rise. Not so far they have not but as we have seen already from GM on the 6th Gen Camaro SS's being in the $40K range there may come a time in the next generation that the V8's are just too premium priced for the average enthusiast to afford. We are not there yet but this could be a choice that some enthusiasts will have to make. They may only be able to afford the V6 Pony Car and in this case GM is getting a head start with the 1LE variant. |
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05-24-2016, 02:37 PM | #123 | |
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