01-14-2015, 12:10 PM | #267 |
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Some countries are moving away from this practice. Like Germany, as of 2009 I think now base road tax on emissions. Ireland and Spain May have also moved to this type of taxation...I looked this up for a previous discussion but don't have the info (and I'm too lazy to look it up again) now.
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01-14-2015, 11:33 PM | #268 | |
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I could also go into why the 4 cylinder won't necessarily be better than a 6 cylinder, but frankly no one is listening. |
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01-15-2015, 06:34 AM | #270 | |
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Re read everything BUT the headline. Nowhere is Al quoted as saying, "there will not be a 4 cylinder in the Camaro". You are "interpreting", not reading more accurately, that he is saying that. All he said was, "I will fight for.....". I agree, you can read that 2 ways. I am only asking that you realize it isn't his final decision regardless of what is in the article. As I said, you may be right. There are a ton of people who hope you are. Government pressures and a 32 MPG Mustang will make it be a heavy consideration. If he can get equal or better FE from a future V6 that no one knows about (i.e. Buick Show car from Detroit). It may not even be needed. Wouldn't that be cool.
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01-15-2015, 11:16 AM | #271 |
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What are you talking about? Audi has a plethora of V8 vehicles and guess what they are top dog luxury in the Mercedes vs BMW vs Audi also BMW and Mercedes still have v8 vehicles. Cadillac still has v8 vehicles. An engine has nothing to do with a car being luxurious or not. Its the company and every luxury company i know of has different engines some have 4cylinders and others have w16 engines with 4 turbos.
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01-15-2015, 11:25 AM | #272 |
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A 4 cylinder camaro wont be an issue. Best thing about being a human is you can buy any car you want so long as you have enough money. Me i won't buy any 4cy or 6cy camaro its only the v8 version for me. Considering i can't afford one then im just going to stay with my ls1 WS6. Im perfectly happy with that car no complaints its plenty fast for now. But if i could afford a new gen 6th camaro SS id highly consider buying a C6Z06 instead for the same amount of money.
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01-15-2015, 11:55 AM | #273 |
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People buying a base version of a Camaro or Mustang are more interested in the looks of the car then the number of cylinders in my opinion. Its not like back in the day when 4 cylinder cars put out 150 HP if you were lucky, the 2.0T has 295 lbs of torque which is more then enough power for most entry level consumers. Especially on a lighter alpha platform.
As long as they still offer a v8 I dont know why anyone would care. Not everyone is looking to mod their Camaros / Mustangs for more performance, so it would only make sense to capitalize on the weight / fuel mileage of 4 cylinders that are already in their lineup. |
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01-15-2015, 09:46 PM | #275 | |
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LGX V6, with cylinder deactivation (as you said....Buick concept car), + 8 speed transmission + lighter weight could equal 32mpg or better highway. I don't see why not. Give the sucker a good 330 - 340 HP in the highest tune V6 for the fun, but the cylinder deactivation for the highway when you want efficiency. I'm in.
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01-15-2015, 10:26 PM | #276 |
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My thoughts exactly on an advanced 6.. I think the Accord with a six cylinder and cylinder deactivation gets 34 on the freeway.. GM should be able to get close to that.
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Lol... Just read over the last few of my posts! |
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01-16-2015, 08:25 PM | #279 | |
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The Mustang gets an EcoBoost 4 cylinder in part because Ford is leading the way with turbochargers putting a turbo in just about every vehicle they make, they don't have a high technology V6 like Chevrolet has to put in the Mustang. The question is will Chevrolet have a good reason to put a 4 cylinder in the Camaro, would it get significantly better mileage, would there be a market for it. A 350HP 4 cylinder with 350 ft/lb of torque that sounds like a superbike might appeal to some, especially if it gets over 32 MPG. |
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