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camaro5 · 04-07-2008, 01:35 AM

Emissions? What's that?

No inspections at all.

I think it's wild what you guys go through in Cali.

Come on down to Florida - the air's fine and CARB is just something I used to have on my car engine made by Holley.

*radz28* · 04-07-2008, 10:13 AM

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Originally Posted by camaro5

Emissions? What's that?

No inspections at all.

I think it's wild what you guys go through in Cali.

Come on down to Florida - the air's fine and CARB is just something I used to have on my car engine made by Holley.

Eat crap j/k

California sucks...

Yeah; if we get pulled over, and don't have CARB numbers showing, on the parts themselves, they'll write us up a ticket and we get to pay a big fine and even go to the smog referee sometimes. I've been there and done that. That's why I'm pushing a forced-induction engine option since it will be easier to sneak by a visual inspection. I don't think a pulley or boost controller really comes into play under conditions smog tests are conducted so it just seems like it will be easier to get more power without running the risk of fines.

I think 300 horses to start is great though.

leifhain · 04-09-2008, 05:02 AM

My experience (Lancia Thema V6 and 2.0 Turbo) makes me believe that the 4 cyl 2.0 Turbo will only have a better fuel economy than the V6 if you stay off the throttle. Most people can't. I definitely would go for the V6 if it comes to fuel economy.

carsismeZ06 · 04-09-2008, 06:50 AM

honestly, i don't see why they cant throw in an LS3. It gets pretty good mpg. And if you have to put a V6 in it, look what the Nissan GT-R can do. It's got a 3. something liter enging, twin turbo that has 480 hp! So really, when it comes to enginges, I think the Camaro is all good.

Grape Ape · 04-09-2008, 10:06 AM

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Originally Posted by leifhain

My experience (Lancia Thema V6 and 2.0 Turbo) makes me believe that the 4 cyl 2.0 Turbo will only have a better fuel economy than the V6 if you stay off the throttle. Most people can't. I definitely would go for the V6 if it comes to fuel economy.

Here in the States a 300hp turbo 4 should get slightly better mileage than a naturally aspirated 300hp V6 no matter how you drive them. They used build them to run over-rich on boost for extra cooling. Our Environmental Protection Agency has put a stop to that, so both engines should run the same ratio at WOT. But the turbo 4 still gets the reduced friction (4 cyl vs 6) and reduced pumping losses (from the turbo) so it should take a little less gas to get 300hp to the flywheel.

*The_Blur* · 04-09-2008, 10:17 AM

That doesn't make me want an EcoTec Camaro. It makes me want to get a Solstice if I can't get a Camaro V8. That makes the Pontiac my back up car.

3whiterag · 04-09-2008, 01:22 PM

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Originally Posted by camaro5

Whoa...Since Camaro is a candidate for the current 260hp 4cyl. turbo, it could wind up with this version of the same engine.

I still have to have my 400hp plus V8 with manual trans, but this could make Camaro even more appealing for more people, and help CAFE numbers so we can keep driving our V8's.

http://www.autoblog.com/2008/04/03/s...ck-300-horses/

I just talked to a gentleman who registered for our Show & Shine and he has an 02 Camaro SS that he says gets 38 mpg. (Imperial Gallons) I assume he has a six speed and 345 hp. stock.

swazworth · 04-09-2008, 02:59 PM

ok so.....
1 Imperial gallon = 1.20095042 US gallons (say google)

what is the size of the fuel tank for the uk camaro?
well if it is the same fuel tank (16.8 us gallons) that means that it would be a 14 imperial gallon tank. getting him 532 miles to a tank.
14 gallons x 38 mpg = 532 miles

now math was not my best subject in school. i might be wrong (tell me if i am) but that would be about 31.6 mpg here in the states right?
532 miles / 16.8 gallons = 31.6 mpg

that doesn't seem that unreasonable. just to be on the safe side say 30 mpg which gives you just over 500 miles to a tank.

16.8 gallons x $3.20 a gallon = $53.76 a tank, that would cost about right around $.11 a mile to drive.

my scion xa has a 11.9 gallon tank gets about 320 miles to a tank and at $3.20 a gallon.....

11.9 gallons x $3.20 = $38.08 a tank, that cost about $.12 a mile. wow i could save myself $.01 a mile if i drove a 02 ss camaro... i need to trade in my car.

i have no clue why i just figured all that out. i just hope i did it right.

Slave One · 04-09-2008, 04:24 PM

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Originally Posted by swazworth

ok so.....
1 Imperial gallon = 1.20095042 US gallons (say google)

what is the size of the fuel tank for the uk camaro?
well if it is the same fuel tank (16.8 us gallons) that means that it would be a 14 imperial gallon tank. getting him 532 miles to a tank.
14 gallons x 38 mpg = 532 miles

now math was not my best subject in school. i might be wrong (tell me if i am) but that would be about 31.6 mpg here in the states right?
532 miles / 16.8 gallons = 31.6 mpg

that doesn't seem that unreasonable. just to be on the safe side say 30 mpg which gives you just over 500 miles to a tank.

16.8 gallons x $3.20 a gallon = $53.76 a tank, that would cost about right around $.11 a mile to drive.

my scion xa has a 11.9 gallon tank gets about 320 miles to a tank and at $3.20 a gallon.....

11.9 gallons x $3.20 = $38.08 a tank, that cost about $.12 a mile. wow i could save myself $.01 a mile if i drove a 02 ss camaro... i need to trade in my car.

i have no clue why i just figured all that out. i just hope i did it right.

My head hurts...

*DGthe3* · 04-09-2008, 11:28 PM

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Originally Posted by 3whiterag

I just talked to a gentleman who registered for our Show & Shine and he has an 02 Camaro SS that he says gets 38 mpg. (Imperial Gallons) I assume he has a six speed and 345 hp. stock.

If he averaged that, he must have been cruising downhill with a tail wind. not saying it isn't possible, just that it is pretty favourable circumstances. Also, talking about gas milage in imperial gallons in Canada is kinda silly to me, since it requires 1 conversion already (litres to gallons), why not just translate it to US gallons? I never use imperial gallons myself, I associate 1 gallon to 3.8L, not 4.5L. oops

JustinZS · 04-11-2008, 12:49 AM

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Originally Posted by The_Blur

That doesn't make me want an EcoTec Camaro. It makes me want to get a Solstice if I can't get a Camaro V8. That makes the Pontiac my back up car.

Thats the point of having a turbo 4, 6cyl and 8cyl versions though. Something for everyone! And Camaros for everyone!

*The_Blur* · 04-11-2008, 02:36 PM

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Originally Posted by JustinZS

Thats the point of having a turbo 4, 6cyl and 8cyl versions though. Something for everyone! And Camaros for everyone!

The Solstice is a lightweight tiny car, though. A 300-hp tiny coupe would wax a bigger 300-hp muscle car. I understand that a lot of people would prefer the function or styling or both of a Camaro over a Solstice, but I'm out for my first dream car here. I want something with a great power-weight ratio and a sweet look. Both fit that category. I'd rather have the Camaro because I'm a Chevy guy with a family heritage of rocking the bowtie. I don't believe in 4-banger muscle cars. If they have to put a 4-cylinder turbo in it, I really hope it kicks this much ass though.

mikel441 · 05-20-2009, 11:14 PM

HHMMMMMM,......Seems Sacrilegious to put a 4 banger in a Camaro, even with the turbo. It's still only half a motor. LOL!

*Camaro_Corvette* · 05-20-2009, 11:15 PM

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04-07-2008, 01:35 AM	#15
camaro5 Drives: X-15 Velocipede Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: SW Florida Posts: 4,637	Emissions? What's that? No inspections at all. I think it's wild what you guys go through in Cali. Come on down to Florida - the air's fine and CARB is just something I used to have on my car engine made by Holley.

04-09-2008, 05:02 AM	#17
leifhain Drives: lancia delta integrale Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: belgium Posts: 6	My experience (Lancia Thema V6 and 2.0 Turbo) makes me believe that the 4 cyl 2.0 Turbo will only have a better fuel economy than the V6 if you stay off the throttle. Most people can't. I definitely would go for the V6 if it comes to fuel economy.

04-09-2008, 06:50 AM	#18
carsismeZ06 Corvette and Camaro lover Drives: 2010 Camaro...some day... Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Ohio Posts: 983	honestly, i don't see why they cant throw in an LS3. It gets pretty good mpg. And if you have to put a V6 in it, look what the Nissan GT-R can do. It's got a 3. something liter enging, twin turbo that has 480 hp! So really, when it comes to enginges, I think the Camaro is all good.

04-09-2008, 02:59 PM	#22
swazworth the nerd king Drives: 2005 scion xb... Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: phoenix, az Posts: 426	ok so..... 1 Imperial gallon = 1.20095042 US gallons (say google) what is the size of the fuel tank for the uk camaro? well if it is the same fuel tank (16.8 us gallons) that means that it would be a 14 imperial gallon tank. getting him 532 miles to a tank. 14 gallons x 38 mpg = 532 miles now math was not my best subject in school. i might be wrong (tell me if i am) but that would be about 31.6 mpg here in the states right? 532 miles / 16.8 gallons = 31.6 mpg that doesn't seem that unreasonable. just to be on the safe side say 30 mpg which gives you just over 500 miles to a tank. 16.8 gallons x $3.20 a gallon = $53.76 a tank, that would cost about right around $.11 a mile to drive. my scion xa has a 11.9 gallon tank gets about 320 miles to a tank and at $3.20 a gallon..... 11.9 gallons x $3.20 = $38.08 a tank, that cost about $.12 a mile. wow i could save myself $.01 a mile if i drove a 02 ss camaro... i need to trade in my car. i have no clue why i just figured all that out. i just hope i did it right.