01-04-2024, 09:21 AM | #113 | |
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Well damn, my 2022 manual must be wrong then because I copy pasted exactly what is in the manual. "If 0W-40 dexos2 oil is not available, SAE 5W-30 dexos1 full synthetic engine oil may be used for street use" Sounds pretty clear to me As far as price goes, the supercar oil looks close to about double. Not exactly what I expected when I bought the car especially considering 10qt oil changes but it is what it is. Maybe the kids will have to eat leftovers Are you done scolding me, Karen?
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01-04-2024, 09:23 AM | #114 | |
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GM and Mobil developed the new 0W-40 Supercar oil so that owners no longer had to run 2 different oils for street and track(we can thank Corvette for this actually). Mobil 1 5W-30 Dexos(or any Dexos approved 5W-30 for that matter) is still approved and perfectly fine for a street driven LT1. IMO, 0W-40 is a waste of money if you're not tracking the car. 2019 is the first model year that had 0W-40 as the factory filled oil. |
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01-04-2024, 09:36 AM | #115 | |
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GM 'owns' the dexos certification and continues to change the program to bring in new certifications as well as age out older ones. The shift in which ones they wish to continue to offer is what ultimately determines what ends up in the owner's manual and in the engine itself. With the exception of two dealer-performed oil changes, I have run nothing but 5W-30 dexos1 oil in my car and will continue to do so because the 0W-40 dexos2 / dexosR oil does -nothing- for me. The LT1 engine has not materially changed since its introduction with the 2016 model year, so there is no reason that oil meeting a different (read: newer) certification needs to be used and the 5W-30 dexos1 oil will still be perfectly safe for street use in these engines. |
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01-04-2024, 09:42 AM | #116 | |
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Track racing is a different story. To each their own though
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01-04-2024, 09:44 AM | #117 |
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For those that want to use the New stuff. It's was on Amazon, when I checked back 12/4/23 for $53.30 (6 pack of 1 quarts).
Mobil 1 Supercar Advanced Full Synthetic Motor Oil 0W-40. |
01-04-2024, 09:50 AM | #118 |
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After having my engine rebuilt and adding cam. In my case: Shop told me to use a thicker oil with the mods I have. 10w40 non synthetic.
Reasons: Shop said they see a lot of lifter issues with synthetic oils, and since my engine was rebuilt with a little more loose tolerances I should use thicker oil. They did say there were some synthetics I could use if I wanted to stick to synthetic. Trade-offs: I just have to change oil every 3000-4000 miles, and give the car time to warm up for the oil to heat up. Not to poke a sleeping bear or anything.
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01-04-2024, 10:17 AM | #119 |
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100%. Track use IMO, would be road course racing or autocrossing. For spirited driving, 5W-30 will be just fine.
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You must live in the only place in the US where Dexos 2 0w-40 oil is not available, then. Sucks for you. All the rest of us can order it without any trouble, and usually it's available locally at all the usual parts stores. Quote:
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01-04-2024, 11:45 AM | #122 |
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If you want to go down the oil rabbit hole then there is another website which I've spent many hours on. I can save you the time.
The Dexos2/Supercar oil 0w40 is overall better protecting oil than "standard" Dexos1 5w30 because most oils on the shelf are optimzed for fuel economy per US CAFE standards. The exception is "euro" oils because euro OEMs don't follow these same standards. Dexos2/Supercar is only a license benchmark. They benchmark the oil and if it meets xyz standards, they pay GM and get a "dexos" license. There are many oils which exceed this benchmark but don't have the label. If you're scared about warranty, then use the licensed oil. Realistically, if there is oil in your engine and its apparent you regularly changed it, they are never going to deny a warranty claim based on non-dexos oil and legally I don't think they can. I'm not willing to pay double for "Supercar" so I split the difference and do the Autozone deal for the M1 ESPx3 0w40 oil. This oil is Dexos2 and PORSCHE C4 specification, which is one of the toughest oil standards out there. I recently did a used oil analysis, and I'm very happy considering the price. Another option would be the regular M1 0w40 "euro" but that oil has higher "sulphated ash." If you're catless, this makes no difference. If I was catless, I'd probably use this because its easier to find and cheaper.
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01-04-2024, 01:38 PM | #123 | |
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01-04-2024, 01:54 PM | #124 |
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Standard oil pissing contest, I see.
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01-04-2024, 01:55 PM | #125 | |
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That's not what I'm seeing. For example Mobil 1 5w-30 ESP costs exactly the same as their 0w-40 ESP. Maybe non-Dexos 5w-30 is cheaper, but your manual doesn't say you can use in any circumstance. Autozone has the best version of ESP 0w-40 (x3) on a constant deal fr $38 for 5 qts plus a filter. You can ditch the filter if you want, but that's $76 for the full 10qt oil change. If it's really going to cause your kids to go hungry to spend that much on an oil change, then you may have bought the wrong car.[/QUOTE] Sucks for me? Nah. Might suck for you worrying about what I do with my car so much. Funny thing is, I haven't even said which oil I will use yet Bought my car in July. They changed the oil at 2400miles. I haven't changed it yet and won't until spring. Once I figure out which oil I will use and do the oil change, should I report back just to piss you off more? I should save a few bucks and use the 5w30 on my street car. I bet that would go up your tender rear end sideways wouldn't it. Later Karen
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