05-01-2021, 04:46 PM | #211 | |
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People will buy electric Porsches for the name. The Taycan can impress him all day, it doesn’t do crap for me. Now, swap out the electric drivetrain for an AWD twin turbo flat 6 and 7 speed manual? Now you GOT something. The sound of a flathead is just...... mmmmm. |
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05-01-2021, 04:53 PM | #212 | |
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Back in my early driving days, Cadillacs, Buicks, and Oldsmobiles had distinct character. But as luxury cars first and foremost, that wasn't the character I would have been looking for. It didn't (and still doesn't) reflect the way I see myself. It's much the same for me now with EVs, including performance EVs. The things they're good at don't do very much for me, and the things that do mean more to me aren't the things that EVs are particularly catering to. Just a bad fit all around. Norm
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05-01-2021, 09:24 PM | #214 | |
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I'm now fan of EV, range and also having to sit and charge it. Also, EV seem to cater to nerds, and yuppies. Not your muscle car crowd. Just seems an electric Camaro is bastardizing the muscle car. I'll hold out as long as possible! I'd much rather have your 2008 GT and throw on a super charger than have an EV Camaro! btw I had a 2006 GT. For that time period those were quick cars for the money. Love that chassis. |
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05-01-2021, 09:50 PM | #215 | |
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EVs can still be fun on track though. Check out Randy Pobst driving this guys Tesla. https://youtu.be/aywleQX5lyA https://youtube.com/watch?v=aywleQX5lyA
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Now that 0-60 times really don’t matter anymore EV manufactures need to find ways to entertain future driving enthusiasts.
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05-01-2021, 10:19 PM | #217 | |
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My dad had a 69 GTO. Told me you really had to baby it when launching or else you didn't hook and be all over the place. These new cars have so many nannies in place. I got cheap tires on me (dealer installed before being sold I guess) and just don't hook as well. Went to an empty dead in road and did some launches with traction control off and in sport mode and was fish tailing some. |
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05-02-2021, 01:10 AM | #218 | |
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Its always been a tough business but rate cutting and the emergence of large fleets which barely pay enough to justify giving up flipping burgers created a scenario where its normal for 100% turnover in remarkably short periods. I read an article describing what your quoting and I sort of laughed. I didnt actually "get out of trucking" I abandoned it while in my peak. Because they could no longer pay me enough to continue doing what I specialized in. Living in NJ and hauling heavy oversized equipment around the north east is a stressful life. I enjoyed every minute.. almost... and the more difficult the challenge the more fun I had doing it. But after a while bringing a 13 foot wide excavator into West New York at 7am running up towards the Lincoln tunnel at 75 feet long and 13 feet wide with a gross weight well over 100,000 lbs requires a certain amount of income to remain a fun challenge. So at 48 with roughly 27 years of experience and half of that hauling OD I just walked away. I used to have a dozen close friends who were in trucking. All the best of the best. All walked away. So when the industry cries about driver shortage consider that all they need do is pay more and good drivers would be lined up. Good companies have no shortage. In many cases its competition. But the industry does not treat many of its employees well enough to keep them... by corporate policy. Its really far more complicated than that but for the purpose of this thread that about says it from my perspective. I think its comical these jack wagons would suggest a driver shortage as an excuse for a fuel shortage they already have planned for the summer...
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05-02-2021, 01:16 AM | #219 | |
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I know in the restaurant and service industry they're blaming the expanded unemployment for not being able to find workers. However, what is the case for truck drivers? Did they suddenly just start quitting when covid hit and less of a demand? I guess this explains why you seem to hear more about big rigs getting into accidents. Less experienced drivers. |
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05-02-2021, 01:28 AM | #220 | |
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For years now they have been filling seats with... recent immigrants. I used to feel a lot more comfortable around the big rigs on the interstate than I do now. I know there are still great drivers out there but Im betting they dont like what they see either. The gasoline shortage article I read stated that lost demand for fuel caused drivers to move to companies shipping freight that was still in demand. I suppose that's legit. But hazmat tanker hauling pays a lot better than dry freight from Amazon. So if thats the case then increased demand for fuel will suck them right back without a moments delay.
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05-02-2021, 04:27 AM | #221 | |
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The trucking industry is one where skills of operating a big rig safely is very dependent on people who know how to do many things at the same time with their full attention to everything. I would not trust a trucker who could not float an Eaton-Fuller without using the clutch. There’s one situation where the automatic transmission is making it less safe for all of us on the highway |
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05-02-2021, 06:59 AM | #222 | |
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I agree with both above. Anyone who cant shift a million times a day shouldnt be driving at all. (big trucks)
And yes the covid caused loss in demand for fuel while the mail order business brought new demand for drivers so they shifted. But. Generally speaking a fuel delivery driver has higher qualifications and is handling hazmat as well as tanker which are both more demanding than a big box filled with little boxes. So if demand for fuel returns they will instantly return to their former higher paying jobs.
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Truck driving is a dead industry it’s going to be replaced with autonomous sooner rather than later. Big companies need to get rid of cost and labor is cost. Truck drivers will be like the gas station attendants of the 50s. As far as the EV Camaro goes performance is what will rule the day. If EV starts smoking gas powered cars people will gravitate to the faster car. New muscle versus old muscle. Internal combustion versus gas. The faster more practical Will win.
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