12-13-2019, 12:56 PM | #29 |
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I think the only significant differences chassis wise are the slightly bigger brake rotors on the ZL1 (the front fascia is just cosmetic). The 1LE is a more aggressive tune of the SS, suspension and anti-sways, magnetic ride, ZL1 fuel pump, eLSD, etc. It probably depends a lot more on price and the fact that the engine on the ZL1 is more setup for the supercharger.
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The ZL1 and SS 1LE are basically the same car, with the ZL1 just having more power and thus more weight over the front axle and of course increase stiffness in the springs, etc to counter the additional weight. The SS 1LE has a little quicker and initial turn-in due to less weight over the front axle and the ZL1 will accelerate quicker on the straights (assuming you get full traction and can put that additional power to the ground). To me, it is more fun to have a balanced car that can take full advantage of the power it has at full throttle , than to be bouncing off the traction control system all the way thru the first couple gears, but that's just me.
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12-13-2019, 02:25 PM | #33 |
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The front fenders are wider than the SS 1LE! And the rear spoiler is wider than the 1SS or 2SS!
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12-13-2019, 02:45 PM | #34 | |
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The NA V8 Camaro is a performance sweet spot. For around $40K you can get one of the best performance values on the planet. World class handling and low 12 second 1/4 capability is still fast enough to thrill. And I have had much more thrill than that. Diminshing returns. You cannot safely use ZL1 performance or more at all on the street and you better know what you are doing to track it. More power is a never ending quest, but you need to burn big money to get it. And once you have it do you still enjoy the car as much? Do you like driving the cae as much or worry about your warranty? OP your 1LE is not really set up for the drags, but if you bolt on the SC your SC can easily be faster than a stock ZL1. You may not like it as much. So if you can get mid $30ks for your SS you could buy a lightly used ZL1. This winter they will be avaiable in the high $40sK. Just about the sticker price of your SS. Much smarter than throwing away $8K on your SS and ending up with a car with no powertrain warranty, one worth about the same as a stock SS 1LE, and a car you might not like driving as much. The LT1 in the Camaro is a sweet spot, just like the warm porrige. I have sampled them all.
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12-13-2019, 03:07 PM | #35 |
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Actually the fenders and front fascia provide more cooling / air flow to the ZL1 radiators. That is why the front end, of the ZL1, wasn't touched during the refresh.
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12-13-2019, 03:11 PM | #36 |
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Yes Fraxum I agree with you on buying a used ZL1 instead of putting $8000-$10,000 on the SS 1LE and then voiding the power train warranty! Of course to each his own!
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12-13-2019, 06:10 PM | #37 |
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Because it needs the extra cooling due to the extra heat in generates. Zl1s has impressive air flow for all the heat exchangers.
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It's engineered to be faster 0 to 60 and quartermile lol.. no duhh it has 200 extra horsepower. Really it's after the quarter mile where it really smokes the ss 1le, at the 1/4 it's only 3 to 5 tenths quicker comparing m6 to m6, not that amazing for an extra 200hp. You're not trying to make it a my car is better than yours comment, yet you're trying to spin it as if the zl1 had anything over the ss 1le besides the power from the lt4 motor. That's it's performance advantage, horsepower. To use your word, the ss 1le has the same handling engineering (FE4 suspension) just on a lighter car.
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I'm also not following those saying the SS 1LE is "basically" the same as the ZL1. The entire drive train is different and the only way the 1LE makes up the difference on any track is the driver mod. |
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12-13-2019, 07:21 PM | #41 |
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M6 has different gearing in the Z. Even the A10 is upgraded from the A10 in the SS. Rear end beefed up axles with coolers. Not sure about the 6th Gen, but the 5th ZL1s have the engine mounted further back too.
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12-13-2019, 07:30 PM | #42 |
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I agree with you Mike Lee about the differences of the ZL1 and the SS 1LE!
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