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08-15-2019, 01:43 PM
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 Drives: Garnet Red / ZL1 1LE Join Date: Apr 2016
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Let's talk - Why are Muffler Deletes a Good or Bad Idea?
I hear muffler deletes are cheap however they cause a lot of drone at cruising gears/speeds.
I for one cannot stand drones as I am no longer in my 20s. Are aftermarket exhausts the only solution...at a substantial price? I want the NPP functionality being a family man and in the interest of my neighbors. Muffler deletes are the most cost effective solution for sound from what I see. That being said, I also don't want to regret it. Thoughts?
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08-15-2019, 01:56 PM
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Drives: 2017 SS 1LE HBM, 2010 SS FBO/Cam Join Date: Mar 2018
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MBRP Axle Back is essential a muffler delete with J pipes to eliminate drone. However, they will not keep NPP functionality.
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08-15-2019, 02:04 PM
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The way it reads what really want is a factory NPP...
 Anything else is going to be louder, and, not retain that function. I can't think of a touring type axle back with an NPP aspect to it. Muffler delete in addition to drone is going to be obnoxiously loud especially on cold start up; family man and neighbors. |
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08-15-2019, 02:44 PM
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Beauty is in the ear of the beholder, but pure muffler deletes sound like a continuous raspy dump truck exhaust. There is no tone, just a wall of zero toned noise. Your Camaro deserves better.
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08-15-2019, 02:51 PM
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A bit more involved but.. The right combo will do the same thing as npp with a muffler delete.
JBA Headers Custom X Pipe Mbrp Race Drone free on the inside. It was almost impossible to tell it had exhaust under normal driving conditions.  |
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08-15-2019, 02:52 PM
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My thoughts are that it is a very confusing area of discussion. People are constantly mixing and matching headers, pipes, cats, x pipes, mufflers, etc, in search of a combination that makes them happy.
I saw this on another discussion the other day: https://www.borla.com/products/camar...t__140726.html If I were to get an exhaust for my ZL-1, this would be it. Apparently not crazy loud, but with the NPP valves and functionality. |
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08-15-2019, 03:00 PM
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08-15-2019, 03:45 PM
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08-15-2019, 04:50 PM
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Friend of mine has the muffler deletes on his GEN5 car, and I cant stand how loud it is. Going to leave mine stock. My neighbor has already commented on my current ZL1 as loud at WOT... in his opinion.
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08-15-2019, 09:55 PM
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my 2010 ss had a muffler delete. I don't recommend it. It got annoying after a while.
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08-16-2019, 08:14 AM
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Good idea - because axlebacks cost way too much money for what they are
Bad idea - drone You can buy my old one if you want. https://www.camaro6.com/forums/showthread.php?t=558532 I cut my pipes so I could easily bolt the NPP back on with band clamps if I ever wanted to (i never did). Not running it anymore because I bought a Hooker catback (no mufflers) with secondary cat delete. |
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08-16-2019, 06:57 PM
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Drives: ‘18 ZL1 / ‘22 ZLE Join Date: Oct 2013
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I have a muffler delete on mine. The drone doesn't bother me that much, but everybody is different. I think the pipes came out to $500
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08-16-2019, 07:23 PM
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08-16-2019, 07:38 PM
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Thank you Al Oppenheiser!
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HUD is plenty bright in full sun w/ top down
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 The right-most rocker controls brightness. If you did full tint on the inside, that may be your problem. Start at 2:50 in this vid: |
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