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The primary purpose is to fold in new technologies that weren’t quite ready at the initial launch (10AT and Direct + Port Injection for Mustang; 10AT, and mirror cam for Camaro). It also gives designers the opportunity to tweak the design so the “half generations” can be visually identifiable and to give people turning in a car off a 2 - 3 year lease incentive to stay with the brand. They won’t be leasing “the exact same car I leased 3 years ago”. There could be some minor tweaking added to a mid-cycle to address issues that could affect sales, but usually those are very minor issues and issues that have no consequence on fuel economy or safety regulations. But for the most part, the direction of the mid-cycle is set BEFORE tangible sales information is available.
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That low wing ZL1 1LE keeps popping up. Wonder what that’s about.
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Is the same one that appeared in Las Vegas
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I would not say it looks fine. I would say it does not look as bad. Let’s get real here, I just had a Chevy dealer tell me that he does not know what the hell Chevy was thinking. He basically stated that his whole staff is in shock in regard to the refresh. Informed me that just about everyone has said.......Nooooooooooo!
All I can say is glad I purchased my 17 2SS at the end of the season last year because there is no frickin way in hell I’d buy a 2019. I’ve never liked the front of the recent Lexus which the refresh reminds of! Reminds of the creature from the movie Predator and that is not a good thing. Chevy! The Camaro is suppose to be an American muscle car, are you listening, an American muscle car. We let you get away with the marginal 2016-18. You almost lost me until I drove it. Took a while but I finally accepted that it was still a marginal American muscle car that was leaning very heavily toward an American sports car. Still enough of the stuff and looks that sort of made it a muscle car. Here’s the kicker, your audience for this car is old farts like me. And this refresh is not the answer. I know what you are doing, your trying to capture the younger crowd. However, you have made the Camaro so expensive that the average young American can not afford them. Hey Chevy, are you listening! Your marketing staff needs to think about a new vocation. Old farts are the ones buying these cars and this new refresh will have us running to Ford or Dodge to get that American muscle car look. Most of us have issues with the big mouth bass look. That is not an American muscle car. The 2016-18 pushed it pretty hard and almost lost some of us. I know I was on the fence. When I was in high school, the average kid with a job washing dishes could afford a Camaro if you saved your pennies for a few years. In fact, a friend of mine did just that. Today, not a chance, you’d have to wash a lot of dishes to get a decent Camaro. So if you are catering to the young crowd I suggest you get your prices in line and people like me will just have to look to Ford or Dodge for decent American muscle cars. I really hope the Camaro survives after this but it is not looking good. All I can say is... The Heartbreak of America! Last edited by mjross; 05-29-2018 at 10:45 PM. |
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