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My original thinking was that they would drop the LT1 in the ZL1 1LE chassis and badge that as the Z/28. After all, that would stay more true to the original philosophy of the badge. However, in terms of marketing it place the car somewhere between the SS 1LE and the Zl1. But with the release of the LT5, I could very well see GM changing that idea that the Z/28 has to be N/A and refocusing on making the ultimate Camaro track weapon. This would be putting the LT5 in the Z-1LE chassis, adding a few goodies and taking out some weight, ala 5th Gen Z/28, and creating an "I'd don't give a "F", I just want to go fast" monster. A good read through at the Corvette forum about the ZR1 and you will come to the conclusion that this is what the ZR1 is all about. The guys over there that wax their Corvettes are saying it's too much, over the top, that wing etc, but the guys that are tracking their Corvettes are drooling over it. You know, it seems like if you give Mark Ruess and Al O. a bottle of good whiskey, a couple of cigars, and a couple of hours to talk it over, anything can happen, lol. |
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12-22-2017, 12:07 PM | #16 |
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That was done at the end of the 5th gen, lol Did any one know that Al O earned his wings on the old LT5 ZR1 corvette? that that lend you to think, he likes High riving motors, and 4 valves per cylinder, this is what i think is coming a smaller displacement (hope not, like to see a 7L) motor with DOHC and 4 valves per with a DCT and i think we will get a turbo, but hope not still like a N.A. motor but dont see it in the works.
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12-22-2017, 12:17 PM | #17 |
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2:55 in, Al says the z28 history has always been naturally aspirated, hence why the ZL1 1LE couldn’t carry the Z28 name:
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We're not going to see a V8 larger than 6.2L in these cars, I feel pretty confident about that. Forced Induction is the technology of the day, and I don't think the Z/28 is immune to it. |
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Forged internals, almost as fast as a ZL1, but no FI...
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In a viral world it's all about a ring time now. It's going to be tough to justify a future NA Z that''s not going to beat the ZL1LE's lap there. They are still stinging from the gen 5, if i were to venture a guess i would say LT5 Z or no Z. Like stated F.I. is the future, and if the Z is going to be the halo GEN 6 it's going to need to lap sub 7:13 JMHO.
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As cool as that would be, it's not going to happen in a production car that has to meet CAFE and EPA standards in all 50 states. This is the exact reason that they did not put an N/A engine in the Z06, it was their first preference but they couldn't get a 7L to fit through all the hoops it has to jump through. |
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Things are a little different with the Corvette Camaro sibling rivalry these days. Base Corvette--SS Camaro z51 Corvette --1LE Camaro z06 Corvette -- zL1 Camaro Z06 w/ Z07 --zl1 1LE Camaro ZR1 w/LT5 -- Z/28 Camaro w/LT5? We'll just have to wait and see. |
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The 5th gen ZL1 WAS the Z28. We had spy pics including the LSA, and the interior with factory paperwork showing it was a "Z28". Then Ford released the BOSS Mustang in 2012, and Chevy as usual decided they had to match that model with a Camaro model. Stripped down, track car to compete with Boss. So they pulled the ZL1 name out of the history books, slapped it on the LSA- powered former Z28. Then created what 5th geners know as the Z28. So they actually already did make a forced induction Z28, they just changed the game and names to compete with Mustang directly. b
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An LSX454 in a Z28? Could be done with the LS7 manifold, etc. I have a 454ss. Nothing like the sound of a big block! Likes gas though, but my 18 Zl1 gets close to the same mpg. ZO6, however was a lot better on gas!
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If they make a Z/28 in this gen, and I think they will simply because we're only a couple years in, there's no way they're going to go another 3 to 4 years without another model to make some buzz, and in order to make that buzz, they will have to go big or go home. Big is going to be an LT5 powered Z/28 in the Z-1LE chassis. Whether it will be that stripped "barely street legal race car" or an ultimate track capable street car is the real unknown. Though I think the sales results from the 5th Gen model may give this car all those creature comforts we can't seem to live without. That said, I would be just fine with an LT1 in the ZL1-1LE chassis. |
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That's probably the most possible scenario but its a cop out. If Ford can built a 526 hp V8, GM could. The issue is they won't do it without going through Corvette first.
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