[tx6g1le]

Well, it looks like between my new camber plates and this coming out, suspension mods may be done.

What do you guys think?

http://www.dscsport.com/product/v2-c...bc62-359946689

[Alpha1BC]

I'd think that unless you're doing spring or wheel/tire changes that would require a damper tuning change to get the most out of, there's not going to be much (if any) benefit to getting an aftermarket controller on these cars. They're great as-is with just an alignment tweak. Can probably get more bang for your buck by spending elsewhere if the rest of the suspension is pretty much stock.

What would be the end goal of the aftermarket controller? More stiffness?

[tx6g1le]

Originally Posted by Alpha1BC

I'd think that unless you're doing spring or wheel/tire changes that would require a damper tuning change to get the most out of, there's not going to be much (if any) benefit to getting an aftermarket controller on these cars. They're great as-is with just an alignment tweak. Can probably get more bang for your buck by spending elsewhere if the rest of the suspension is pretty much stock.

What would be the end goal of the aftermarket controller? More stiffness?

Here's an article on a recent Cam-C challenge that this controller helped win "supposedly"

http://www.dscsport.com/2017/06/23/d...bc62-359946689

[seanblurr]

I'm not really sure the car needs it? It is a street track day car after all

[Alpha1BC]

Originally Posted by tx6g1le

Here's an article on a recent Cam-C challenge that this controller helped win "supposedly"

http://www.dscsport.com/2017/06/23/d...bc62-359946689

I'm not quite sure how I feel about that one haha.

If you're trying to get a few more fractions of a second and are already a well-seasoned driver that doesn't have any driving areas to improve on and can't change anything else on the car, I could see this upgrade being worthwhile. Although, might be better to wait and see if the DSSVs off the ZL1 1LE become available for the SS 1LE or go with aftermarket adjustable dampers and shed some weight at the same time.

But, if you're like me and aren't a pro driver and not competitively tracking your car, I'd think you'd see more of a difference by putting that expense towards more track time, replacing consumables, or other upgrades elsewhere on the car.

[dotfiles]

Originally Posted by Alpha1BC

I'm not quite sure how I feel about that one haha.

If you're trying to get a few more fractions of a second and are already a well-seasoned driver that doesn't have any driving areas to improve on and can't change anything else on the car, I could see this upgrade being worthwhile. Although, might be better to wait and see if the DSSVs off the ZL1 1LE become available for the SS 1LE or go with aftermarket adjustable dampers and shed some weight at the same time.

But, if you're like me and aren't a pro driver and not competitively tracking your car, I'd think you'd see more of a difference by putting that expense towards more track time, replacing consumables, or other upgrades elsewhere on the car.

I feel the same way. The fractional improvement this may provide in certain scenarios isn't worth it unless you're competitively driving the car, in which case as you said it would be better to get DSSV's or aftermarket dampers. IMO money would be better spent on track specific tires/consumables/track day fees for more seat time.

[TrackClub]

This car is amazing out of the box. Best mod is seat time for a driver. Watch Provoste's Watkins Glen vids and marvel how he lays sub 2:10 laps on slicks and 2:11 on street rubber, passing everyone. One wise pro racer once said that pace is largely dependent on weight to power ratio, tires and driver. Of course one can muck away at mods but even on this forum there is evidence of folks screwing up an excellent balance this car provides straight from a factory. And then they plan even more mods to solve what they broke. The best mod imo is fresh tires and seat time. And it is the most fun too

[Franko07]

could you imagine how bad you can screw up your car with that thing if you dont know your way around the specific changes.

[TrackClub]

Originally Posted by Franko07

could you imagine how bad you can screw up your car with that thing if you dont know your way around the specific changes.

Indeed. Folks seem to forget this car beats the mighty Z/28 at Laguna with less power, no DSSV shocks and no sticky Trofeo R rubber.
Personally I am faster in my 1LE bone stock vs my previous track dedicated C5 Z06 with coilovers and R-comp rubber. Why? Because 1LE is really GM's top dog Z06 sans a blower but plus 2 (much better) seats. And according to some pros, it is a much better balanced car. And that's an absolutely last thing I'd want to screw with. IMO.

[mggeyer]

Trackclub, you are spot on. The data and testing the engineers used for the set up on this car is WAY beyond anything most can dream of acquiring. Seat time is the most important. How many of us can drive this car at 9/10s of its capability. Randy Pobst is about the only I can think of and I believe most have a long way to go before we get to that level. I raced SCCA, NASA & COMSCC for many years in CORVETTES and had a great deal of success but when I ran against World Challenge drivers I soon learned that I had lots to learn. Dont get me wrong , its fun to mod your cars and there are some excellent products out there but until you have a greqt deal of seattime with laptimes to evaluate your progression I not sure I would invest in a lot of mods. This car is VERY capable just as it sits. Im really looking forward to running the car at a track that I have raced and instructed at to see how it does from a laptime standpoint. Just from my short experience driving it on the street I cant imagine I will be disappointed. This car rocks!

[TrackClub]

Mggeyer, get ready to be pleasantly surprised. I know I did when I bettered my PB by over a second at one of the tracks. I just could not believe it. The car is super stable, has a crisp turn in and superb mid corner balance (with maxed camber).
I also love the stock tires, which are r-comps in disguise. GM did an incredible job here and surpassed the Vette by a country mile for sure given the pace to price ratio.

[SaphfireSS]

Worth while mod after better tire/wheel set up. Imo
Just wish it wasn't so expensive.

[Ryephile]

Originally Posted by Alpha1BC

I'd think that unless you're doing spring or wheel/tire changes that would require a damper tuning change to get the most out of, there's not going to be much (if any) benefit to getting an aftermarket controller on these cars. They're great as-is with just an alignment tweak. Can probably get more bang for your buck by spending elsewhere if the rest of the suspension is pretty much stock.

What would be the end goal of the aftermarket controller? More stiffness?

The DSC controller lets you dictate the damper curve and assign that mapping per each drive mode. Of course adding GC sleeves and corresponding spring rate changes to match Hoosiers et al means damping mapping changes.

What you're asserting is akin to saying "Bilstein dampers are good enough, why would you need Penske's?"

I do agree that most people won't need the DSC controller. It is intended for experienced track rats that also have comprehensive tuning wisdom that understand what changes they need to get more out of the platform.

[F1FTY]

I think that until we have some reviews coming in from track driving and daily use, this is all a lot of conjecture without facts. Give it some time....