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Old 10-19-2015, 08:13 PM   #1
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Performance number for the T4

Hey, I just noticed something while reading the perfomance figures released by GM. The turbo 4 has worse numbers then the v6 in every category. But if you realise the four cylinder was tested without the RS package it was on the 18 inch all season tires. My question is with the better rubber on the RS package wouldnt the 4 cylinder out brake and out corner the V6 since it is lighter? Did GM intentionally do that to not show the T4 is a better performer?

Lemme know what you guys think. I want to order one in the spring but still hesitant whether I go with the T4 or V6.
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Old 10-19-2015, 08:20 PM   #2
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There may be a small gain in better rubber but the extra weight of the 20's will probably negate it. The 18's on either engine is probably the faster option.

The turbo 4 should be slower in a bone stock configuration. It does offer a wider range of tuning options however.


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Old 10-19-2015, 08:34 PM   #3
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The LT RS tire is also an all season.

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Old 10-19-2015, 09:00 PM   #4
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Stock for stock, with same rubber, the V6 is going to be a tad faster than the t2.0, if not for the simple fact that it has a lot more top end power. From a drag I'm sure they are close, but as MPH climbs that V6 is going to pull away surely.

But with a tune, that 2.0 is going to be a fun machine and will easily put a stock V6 behind it....not that I don't think a modded V6 would be awesome either. It would be!
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Old 10-19-2015, 10:57 PM   #5
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Hey, I just noticed something while reading the perfomance figures released by GM. The turbo 4 has worse numbers then the v6 in every category. But if you realise the four cylinder was tested without the RS package it was on the 18 inch all season tires. My question is with the better rubber on the RS package wouldnt the 4 cylinder out brake and out corner the V6 since it is lighter? Did GM intentionally do that to not show the T4 is a better performer?

Lemme know what you guys think. I want to order one in the spring but still hesitant whether I go with the T4 or V6.
It should.... The I4 is the stock motor and the V6 is an upgrade. If the V6 under performed, why would anyone upgrade?

But overall. sure some fresh good rubber might help, but with the I4, I doubt the difference could be tangible unless you boosted the turbo itself.
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Old 10-19-2015, 11:05 PM   #6
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Where did you find the stats for the t4?
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Old 10-19-2015, 11:26 PM   #7
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http://media.chevrolet.com/media/us/...14-camaro.html
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Old 10-20-2015, 12:24 AM   #8
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Stock for stock, with same rubber, the V6 is going to be a tad faster than the t2.0, if not for the simple fact that it has a lot more top end power. From a drag I'm sure they are close, but as MPH climbs that V6 is going to pull away surely.

But with a tune, that 2.0 is going to be a fun machine and will easily put a stock V6 behind it....not that I don't think a modded V6 would be awesome either. It would be!
I just don't see any easy performance gains with the V6. I really think it will have the least "mod potential" of all 3 engine offerings.
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Old 10-20-2015, 12:53 AM   #9
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Going from 275 hp to 335 hp (+22%) is going to influence performance a lot more than going from ~3435 lbs to ~3335 lbs (-3%)
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Old 10-20-2015, 06:56 AM   #11
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I'm not sure why I'm so excited about a turbo 4 in a camaro. So far we know the ecoboost can reach 500/500 before the engine starts to let go so I hope the lil boosted Duke can do the same or even better.
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Old 10-20-2015, 07:40 AM   #12
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Hey, I just noticed something while reading the perfomance figures released by GM. The turbo 4 has worse numbers then the v6 in every category. But if you realise the four cylinder was tested without the RS package it was on the 18 inch all season tires. My question is with the better rubber on the RS package wouldnt the 4 cylinder out brake and out corner the V6 since it is lighter? Did GM intentionally do that to not show the T4 is a better performer?

Lemme know what you guys think. I want to order one in the spring but still hesitant whether I go with the T4 or V6.
I think the RF3s might bring the 60-0 braking and lateral G numbers up to the V6 values. The weight difference is probably not enough to make the better, though.
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Old 10-20-2015, 08:30 AM   #13
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I just don't see any easy performance gains with the V6. I really think it will have the least "mod potential" of all 3 engine offerings.
You are correct...it will. But I still think with bolt ons and a tune taking that sucker to an easy 350+ HP, it will be a hoot to drive.

The HP to weight ratio on a 350HP 3,450 pound V6 would be virtually the same as the 2015 SS automatic. That's something to think about.
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Old 10-20-2015, 08:32 AM   #14
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Going from 275 hp to 335 hp (+22%) is going to influence performance a lot more than going from ~3435 lbs to ~3335 lbs (-3%)
T4 = 12.13
V6 = 10.25
V8 = 8.28

Lower = better.

That said, there are some benefits where adding lightness adds a fairly decent benefit over just looking at the ratio, especially when considering just where that power comes on, and the driving dynamics one is looking for.

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