[LT4Greg]

Get a ZL1 if you can find one for the right price jamala. You won’t regret the upgrade I assure you! I haven’t.��

[raptor5244]

Originally Posted by XQZMYZ

I paid $69k MSRP for my 21 ZL1 in September. I see dealers in my area regularly listing used ones for over MSRP, I don't understand how they are selling.

Same here, had to pay MSRP less $500 Educator Rebate for my 2021 ZL1 but got about $8k more for my trade than normal so it kind of cancels out the 6-8k discount that we use to get on new Camaros. Even at MSRP the Camaro SS/ZL1 is a performance bargain.

I am not sure we will ever see that kind of discounting again on a Camaro since they will not be a large supply of them anymore. During the next year GM will be so focused on transitioning to EVs and most of the their supply will go toward the high profit vehicles such as trucks, SUVs and the huge backlog of C8 Corvettes.

[jamala00]

Originally Posted by LT4Greg

Get a ZL1 if you can find one for the right price jamala. You won’t regret the upgrade I assure you! I haven’t.��

If I can find the one I'm looking for, for the right price...! I'll be all over it.

[FarmerFran]

DICK WICKSTROM has one for $71 new, loaded up a bit though. RBM

Asking MSRP if anyone is interested. I considered but decided to keep Big Sexy.

[DorsoDuroJohn]

"I considered but decided to keep Big Sexy. "

Beyoncé?

[Oil Man]

Values are completely out of whack at the moment. Inflation, coupled with artificially short supply have brought us here.

I was run off the road on 10/2, and totalled my 2018 ZL1 A10, which was in outstanding condition, with 138,000 miles, of which probably 80% were highway miles.

I knew the car would be totaled, but I was in suspense for a week or two as to what my insurance company would value the car at when they paid off. Then I got my answer: $57,900. For a car that I had paid $64k for 3.5 years and almost 140k miles earlier. In good shape, but definitely well used.

Of course, I was stoked.

Until I started looking in earnest for a replacement. I have been casually watching the local market for the last 4-5 weeks, but I have only really been ready to act for a week or two. And I have had some rude awakenings. Some highlights:

I spoke with the sales manager of the dealership where I bought my ZL1 in 2018. I knew they had a car that was a PDR away from being exactly what I was looking for, and I made it clear to him that I was VERY interested and motivated, and PLEASE contact me when they truck the car the last 30 miles from the railyard to you... because I will probably buy it. Added bonus: This dealer was NOT adding price adjustments. Just selling cars at MSRP.

Yesterday, I noticed that the car no longer showed on the Chevy inventory page as being "In transit, arrival date 12/2" In fact, it no longer showed AT ALL. So I called.

"Oh, yeah. That one sold."
"It did?" "I was under the impression it wasn't even arriving for a couple more days, at least"
"Well, it didn't actually get here yet, but someone bought it..."
"Great. Thanks. If you'd had told me it worked that way, I might have considered it when we talked about this last week.... in person..."


Another car is scheduled to arrive at another dealer within a day or two, and my call to them went like this:

"Hi, I see you have a black ZL1 arriving soon, and I was wondering when its supposed to physically arrive, and if you are doing market adjustments?"

"Yeah, its supposed to get here this week, and yes we are doing market adjustments. If you want to come down here tonight, we can talk about putting something together on the car..."

"Well, maybe,... how much are you asking over MSRP?"
"I don't know exactly... can you come down here?"
"Look man... if you can't even tell me what the check needs to say... then no...I am probably not coming down there..."
"Oh....well... I'll talk to my sales manager and call you back...."


And so it goes.. I don't want to commit to something I can't even inspect in person... but this is nuts.. I have been sliding the "search radius" out farther and farther from my home zip code, looking for suitable cars, and assessing the feasibility of driving a new ZL1 half way across the country in December.

[FarmerFran]

Originally Posted by DorsoDuroJohn

"I considered but decided to keep Big Sexy. "

Beyoncé?

Beatris

[raptor5244]

Originally Posted by Oil Man

Values are completely out of whack at the moment. Inflation, coupled with artificially short supply have brought us here.

I was run off the road on 10/2, and totalled my 2018 ZL1 A10, which was in outstanding condition, with 138,000 miles, of which probably 80% were highway miles.

I knew the car would be totaled, but I was in suspense for a week or two as to what my insurance company would value the car at when they paid off. Then I got my answer: $57,900. For a car that I had paid $64k for 3.5 years and almost 140k miles earlier. In good shape, but definitely well used.

Of course, I was stoked.

Until I started looking in earnest for a replacement. I have been casually watching the local market for the last 4-5 weeks, but I have only really been ready to act for a week or two. And I have had some rude awakenings. Some highlights:

I spoke with the sales manager of the dealership where I bought my ZL1 in 2018. I knew they had a car that was a PDR away from being exactly what I was looking for, and I made it clear to him that I was VERY interested and motivated, and PLEASE contact me when they truck the car the last 30 miles from the railyard to you... because I will probably buy it. Added bonus: This dealer was NOT adding price adjustments. Just selling cars at MSRP.

Yesterday, I noticed that the car no longer showed on the Chevy inventory page as being "In transit, arrival date 12/2" In fact, it no longer showed AT ALL. So I called.

"Oh, yeah. That one sold."
"It did?" "I was under the impression it wasn't even arriving for a couple more days, at least"
"Well, it didn't actually get here yet, but someone bought it..."
"Great. Thanks. If you'd had told me it worked that way, I might have considered it when we talked about this last week.... in person..."


Another car is scheduled to arrive at another dealer within a day or two, and my call to them went like this:

"Hi, I see you have a black ZL1 arriving soon, and I was wondering when its supposed to physically arrive, and if you are doing market adjustments?"

"Yeah, its supposed to get here this week, and yes we are doing market adjustments. If you want to come down here tonight, we can talk about putting something together on the car..."

"Well, maybe,... how much are you asking over MSRP?"
"I don't know exactly... can you come down here?"
"Look man... if you can't even tell me what the check needs to say... then no...I am probably not coming down there..."
"Oh....well... I'll talk to my sales manager and call you back...."


And so it goes.. I don't want to commit to something I can't even inspect in person... but this is nuts.. I have been sliding the "search radius" out farther and farther from my home zip code, looking for suitable cars, and assessing the feasibility of driving a new ZL1 half way across the country in December.

Yeah, keep searching. There are a lot of dealers that will sell at MSRP and now games but it is challenging right now with really low supply. The things is, I don't see the ZL1 inventory really improving until the end of the run in a year or so. I think they will just trickle in one here and one there, mostly pre-sold, or ordered cars. When I tried to order a 2022 I was 3rd in line at 3 dealers for an allocation. Would have taken 6-9 months so a I found a dealer stock car that was close to my specs.