01-17-2024, 05:30 PM | #43 |
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I’m pretty certain LFP wasn’t developed fully while Volt was in production. There were “iron batteries” that were used in early super small super low range cars like Th!nk, but those batteries had a lot of serious problems. I often wonder if LFP is a “descendent” of those earlier iron batteries.
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01-19-2024, 07:15 AM | #44 | |
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The lease car program we have has Audis and VWs, but you can’t order what you want. They just send out a list every month with cars you can pick from. VPs get to select some more expensive cars (for example I can’t select a Q7) or in some cases I can’t get the higher trim level. My peers at MAN in Europe get to order the car they want AND input includes Ducati. It’s a good perk and I’ll miss it when I retire.
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01-19-2024, 07:24 AM | #45 | |
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Rate for level 2 at home has been 32 miles per hour of charging. At a Charge Point DC charger I got 24.6 kWh in 27 minutes. At my current 3.2 miles per kWh that’s about 80 miles in half an hour. Honestly not sure what would happen with a Super Charger. I haven’t observed anything strange with the charging though. One thing I did notice on a shorter highway trip, 120 miles round trip, was at a bit over 70 the range drops faster than accumulated miles. May do the same with an ICE, but I’ve never noticed it. Probably because with the EV I was more concerned with it and watching
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LOL won’t let me add the video of my old SS. But no, that bit of joy is missing. I used to remote start that car so I could hear it before getting in.
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02-06-2024, 12:18 PM | #48 |
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So far, so good. If you can get passed the politics of this and let if simply be a technology and convenience discussion, the only issue left is really convenience to charge.
As I've said, in 30 minutes on a level 2 charger I can get about 100 miles of range. At home? Easy, peasy. Plug it in to my Level 2 and you get over 30 miles per hour of charging. With no real math behind it, our electric bill has gone up about $20 this month. If they give me a decent deal/lease after retirement to pick this up, I may just do it. For just around town, this is a really fun car to drive. Instant torque makes quick pulls to the speed limit. Low CG with that battery helps the car corner quite well. It won't satisfy and SS owner, but I'd give this a run against a 2.0T. Like I said, it's only 295 HP so it's not intended to be a super fast EV. But very usable and very fun.
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03-08-2024, 09:09 AM | #49 |
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How did you like your Atlas? If you could have that back, or keep the ID.4, what would you choose?
We have a BMW iX and mostly charge at home. It also has the free 30-minute EA sessions but most of the time we don't bother. EA chargers are usually junk and it's so infrequent we charge away from home that we just select the nearest pay charger unless there's an EA on the way, we'll swing by. |
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I have driven electric vehicles and hybrids; In terms of the electric vehicles I find them to be quite acceptable in terms of transportation in getting to points a and b. I think of them as very good utensils in transportation.
In terms of re-servicing (charging) I find the process to be a c- or d. It takes far too long and inconvenient to adequately re-charge an EV.
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