12-13-2019, 07:02 AM | #15 |
Not sure you would ever even notice the eLSD, and the price difference is pretty significant for a S/C. I couldn't justify it.
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12-13-2019, 07:09 AM | #16 |
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his 1le does have an Elsd
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12-13-2019, 09:35 AM | #17 | |
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12-13-2019, 09:59 AM | #18 |
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I'd do what Nicky on here did and build the LT1. Cam, Ti valves, springs, heads, etc... You'll end up with LT4 power, higher redline, no added weight.
But I also agree with the slippery slope comment, it's never enough. I'm keeping my SS stock.
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12-13-2019, 10:08 AM | #19 |
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The engineering is in the ZL1. The SS 1LE is engineered for its engine, weight and performance envelope. The ZL1 is just engineered for a higher performance envelope. In fact, it is so good, you sometimes don't realize how good it is, until you drive something else. My recent experience puts the ZL1 right in between the AMG GT-S and AMG GT-R. Let that settle in for a bit.
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12-13-2019, 10:47 AM | #20 | |
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Though you will be out a warranty and I can be a slippery slope as mentioned. In my opinion, keep the lt1 NA and mod it to its potential. Look at what Prays NA cars are doing, 9s and low 10s. If you want to supercharge it, then got with a zl1 off the gate. You'll want to mod that too eventually but at least you can just turn up the wick on an already boosted car.
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12-13-2019, 11:01 AM | #22 | |
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How critical are those elements? I am not sure any of us would even know - it would be all speculation! Could be negligible could be huge. |
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12-13-2019, 11:12 AM | #23 | |
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Obviously the zl1 is better suited and factory tuned chassis wise for the added weight of a supercharger vs a boosted ss 1le if thats what Lafourche1 was getting at.
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12-13-2019, 11:42 AM | #24 |
Just want to reiterate, we're talkin about on the street. Talking like 20 grand to improve your stoplight to stop light time by a second? That's a bit steep. You can throw a NOS kit on there and do the same thing for under a grand, and keep your warranty if you're smart about it. Now if we're talkin doing autocross or something, and wanting to keep your warranty, then that's a different story.
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12-13-2019, 11:53 AM | #25 |
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I had a 2017 2SS that I put a lot of the 1le suspension stuff on (not the kit from gm, and not the mag-ride reprogram), and I traded it in for a zl1, with the intent (at the time) to trade that in for a new 2020 2ss 1le once they started hitting shelves.
I will not do that now. The zl1 not only has the obvious power, but the handling is better than the 1le, to me. It could be in my head, but once you add everything up, the other side of the equal marks shows the zl1 being the better deal overall. |
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If you can truly afford a ZL1, go that route. Mods can put a smile on the face but generally see no return on $’s spent. They also make selling the car more difficult. If you plan to keep the car longer term, the beating on mods may not be so bad. Plan to take a beating if trading in the SS with the deals going on now. To me, no matter what you do to an SS, it’s still not going to be what a ZL1 means to me.
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What you said just isn't true handling wise. What 1le are you comparing it to? A 1le you test drove for a short period of time or the ss you put some non 1le but 1le like stuff? The 1le and regular one are very similarly setup chassis and suspension wise on top of the same eLSD. Different tuning for weight and power but mostly same equipment. Unless you prefer the feel of a slightly heavier car with a little more weight on the nose the zl1 handling is not better than the lighter ss 1le. Ask the guys who tracked their 1le's and now track zl1s or even zl1 1le's, the weight is apparent. On the motortrend gt350r vs zl1 article it's mentioned that the ss 1le handles better than both (not that it's a better car, just handling characteristics). Or better yet take Randy Pobst word on it. Again if you need the extra power and speed as well as more exotic looks, the zl1 is the way to go for sure, but not for its handling characteristics or it's superior performance besides speed/power.
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Once again, this is the engineering thing.
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