[Speedy1975]

Originally Posted by 17 White ZL1

Stock with a diablo tuner on the windshield

Yep I use it for data logging. I always data log every run at the track so I can go back and see if there are areas for improvement. I'm happy to post the data log if you would like to review to confirm the car is stock. I actually love that some of you guys think it's not.

Nice work on the 10.98 however the 60' isn't near as good as I would have expected with a drag radial. Isn't that about on par with the factory tires?

[17CamaroZL1]

Originally Posted by ZL W0N

I also saw a comment about me having an intake. That’s completely false and your first mistake was listening to Mike haha. Cold Air Inductions test fitted their prototype intake on my ZL1 at Camaro Fest in July, but removed it to make some minor tweaks to their production model. I did not have an intake, and I still don’t have an intake. Cold Air Inductions will be sending me their first production model to install and review for you guys. Hope that clears up confusion. If you want any other info, it’s all on my videos!

I wish they would hurry up with that intake. So far that's the best looking one I've seen, but I'd like to know how it performs in comparison to others.

Originally Posted by ZL W0N

Stock intake. 93 oct, nearly a full tank. 60°+ Didn’t record the DA

That's a very impressive time to be running that much fuel! If you haven't posted your time slip in the drag section, you need to. That'll put you back on top of the bolt on list. Thanks for posting your slip here, because I had been wondering what kind of 60' you had since I watched your video when you first put it on youtube. I'm glad to see you managed better than a 1.7. You have the lowest 60' I've seen from an untuned car. I was afraid that TM wasn't going to allow much more than I've been seeing from the stock tires even though there's definitely more grip to be had with a drag tire. I was hoping I was wrong and we could at least get into the 1.5s.

Can't wait to see the outcome of your twin turbo build. Keep up the good work with your 2 ZL1s! Sorry to hear about the bent rod on your 5th gen. It sucks, but man, what some numbers that stock bottom end put up before that happened!! BTW, that car has my favorite wrap ever!

[Boo]

Originally Posted by ZL W0N

Well this thread asked for 10s ZL1s and I gave them a stock power level, stock weight, and stock wheels ZL1. This 51 page thread seems to be a lot of arguing and no racing. It took me multiple trips to the drag strip and multiple passes to run a 10s ET. The A10 doesn’t launch very well with the stock tune. Very hard to get right. If everyone would quit arguing and do more racing, there would be more 10s passes on here! Haha.

Nick im a huge fan of your work and you seem to be a genuinely good dude. Cheers. Your videos in particular are excellent! Im curious about the time discrepancy between the pdr and your track time. I heard what you said in the video but im having the same problem and have stock tires. Do you ever use the in dash performance timing 0-60....1/4mile in conjunction with the pdr? My pdr times are all over the place...0-60 4 secs 0-100 7.1 then 11.8 1/4 when i ran an 11.2. Im just trying to figure out if the pdr is just inaccurate on a 1/4mile track. My in dash times seem consistent but are way off the pdr. Again im a huge fan and value your opinion.

[Infern0]

Originally Posted by Blackdevil77

Nice work Nick. Whether it's considered stock or not by everybody's standards, it's still the fastest time for a stock powered 6th gen ZL1 on radials. Seems like with a stock tune, going off idle works the best.

This.

I think if anyone who was putting tires on their ZL1 was hitting 10's this wouldn't be a big deal at all. The fact that even most with more bolt-ons than tires are still not able to break 10's makes this a little more significant and proves there was some good driving and stars aligning for the run. For that, well done!

On a personal note, a little less (ok a lot less) talking and a lot more whatever the topic of the video is (or racing as you said previously) and I'd be a big fan. That's my two-cents - which probably is less than you get for your videos anyway lol.


EDIT: By chance were you once tuned and then ran this "de-tuned"?

[Speedy1975]

Originally Posted by Lt1z350

In a couple weeks I am going back to Valdosta where I went 11.41@122 on a 1.74 60 and it was 85 degrees and with humidity da was around 1800. Last weekend Gainesville a little cooler and dryer had a 1600 da went 11.38@126 on a shitty track and 1.8s 60s all day. Valdosta preps well so expecting 11.0-10.90s near 130s. These hellcat homos crack me up. Post all the crap you want on here I have seen so many on my track days not break 11.40s even on a drag radial. Most can’t even get into 11s on hot Florida days if on radials. Like I said tell your hellcat buddy’s to show up at Valdosta and will see who is fastest. As so far on same day they haven’t been close. All the crack heads need to go back to their own forums. It’s like posting z06 stock 10.40@134 times on here no one cares as seen plenty of them claim in the 10s on stock tires too but yet to see in person and been spending a lot of time at track lately.

By the way a cold air on this car won’t do shit as already closing the throttle way down on stock box. So cai it will just close it more I have posted about this on the cai thread. So other then a tire nothing is going to help this car go faster on a stock tune other then cold air and lower da. The tune is already up on the stock torque limits. All you can hope for is a good track cool weather so it isn’t pulling a ton of timing. Mods will do squat with no tune.

You're not very nice LOL

I'm going to extend an invitation to a couple of non Mopar cars to attend ChallengerFest 9 next April 13-15, 2018 at Beech Bend Raceway. I'm the event organizer/owner. I can reserve one for you since you have such a big mouth. Plenty of Hellcats for you to try your luck against and plenty that will be happy to take your money as well. You won't be eligible for race classes but it's two full days at the drag strip and hours and hours of TNT and grudge racing. What do you say?

We'll be sure to take plenty of video to post up over here so folks can see how awesome you are when you whip all the Hellcats at the event.

Here's one example

[rjacobs]

Originally Posted by Speedy1975

Here's one example

I believe the other poster was talking about stock hellcats and you post one that is modded and running a drag pack.

I tried to see what kind of power that car is making and the builder(OST) wont post the numbers...people have asked on their facebook page and they say "it makes enough to run x.xx time", but wont post the actual numbers. I would guess its up over 800whp.

Its also running C16.

So compare a comparably built ZL1 to this Hellcat and then we can talk.

I dont think anybody is saying a modded hellcat cant run, its obvious they can, but this is a thread about taking a bone stock, down to the tires, ZL1 and trying to get it into the 10's...

[TheRealJA105]

LOL at telling the OP what his thread is about...

[Speedy1975]

Originally Posted by rjacobs

I believe the other poster was talking about stock hellcats and you post one that is modded and running a drag pack.

I tried to see what kind of power that car is making and the builder(OST) wont post the numbers...people have asked on their facebook page and they say "it makes enough to run x.xx time", but wont post the actual numbers. I would guess its up over 800whp.

Its also running C16.

So compare a comparably built ZL1 to this Hellcat and then we can talk.

I dont think anybody is saying a modded hellcat cant run, its obvious they can, but this is a thread about taking a bone stock, down to the tires, ZL1 and trying to get it into the 10's...

That video link was in response to the below - how anyone even sits through that foolishness is beyond me, but Lt1z350 likes to find the worst driver on the planet to compare times with, so I posted one where they know what they're doing. I'd say about 8000RWHP is right, it's upper and lower pulleys, drag pack, and tune on C16, with drive shaft upgrade. Their stage 2 is listed on their website and the guarantee the time you'll run rather than the HP you'll make on some random dyno. They're real racers over at that shop and were the guys that tuned my old Challenger.

Based on this thread, a pretty built ZL1 runs 10.30s. Scroll up a few posts. I WOULD expect that to get better as the platform is figured out though.

Originally Posted by Lt1z350

So if a stock one goes 10s what happened to this car that’s making almost 200 more hp then stock at the wheels but yet only runs 10.30@136?????
https://youtu.be/ZlanpDgRnkM
How is it even possible with 200 more whp it only runs 10.30s and yes he is on Tires. A zl1 that makes 800 whp like the rpm car runs in the 9s @142-145. So a stock hellcat running 10.50 isn’t any kind of reality if you watch this 760+whp car run.

Anyway, I'd love to see Lt1z350 come to CF9 where we can put this to rest. I'm happy to be the first to line up. Queue stock tires argument in 3, 2, 1..... LOL

I'm not attacking the ZL1....I've offered to help Dave with his at Beech Bend. There are some tricks you can use that make a stock car go (usually). You gotta data log the car to see what's going on. I would expect Dave and I to hit Beech Bend in the spring and I bet we can get him his 10. Dodge just went bananas with the Hellcat and a select few here seem to be a bit butthurt over it.

I had mine dyno'd over the weekend and it was quite a bit more than I was expecting.

[rjacobs]

Originally Posted by TheRealJA105

LOL at telling the OP what his thread is about...

I wasnt telling the OP, I was referencing a prior poster.

[jdasnt3]

Didn't a ZL1 just post a 10 second slip with DOT tires on stock rims in the Drag Racing forum? Don't think he listed brand and type of tire though.

[Zeke.Malvo]

Originally Posted by jdasnt3

Didn't a ZL1 just post a 10 second slip with DOT tires on stock rims in the Drag Racing forum? Don't think he listed brand and type of tire though.

Drag radials are DOT tires.

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[Speedy1975]

Originally Posted by jdasnt3

Didn't a ZL1 just post a 10 second slip with DOT tires on stock rims in the Drag Racing forum? Don't think he listed brand and type of tire though.

Look a few posts back and you'll see he said they were NTO5R tires. Totally acceptable in my book, but to some here they freak out for whatever reason they're not the tires that came on it from the factory.

Even so, a 1.68 60' on that tire isn't stellar which definitely tells us other things are at play like TM. The MPH is definitely there for a 10.80 I'd say. On a DR with the weight of the ZL1 I'd expect a high 1.5x 60' EASY if all things are working together properly.

[17CamaroZL1]

Originally Posted by Boo

Nick im a huge fan of your work and you seem to be a genuinely good dude. Cheers. Your videos in particular are excellent! Im curious about the time discrepancy between the pdr and your track time. I heard what you said in the video but im having the same problem and have stock tires. Do you ever use the in dash performance timing 0-60....1/4mile in conjunction with the pdr? My pdr times are all over the place...0-60 4 secs 0-100 7.1 then 11.8 1/4 when i ran an 11.2. Im just trying to figure out if the pdr is just inaccurate on a 1/4mile track. My in dash times seem consistent but are way off the pdr. Again im a huge fan and value your opinion.

Not trying to steal anything from Nick, but just wanted to give you my experience with PDR to hopefully answer your question. I've used both my in-dash timer and PDR on several runs. The in-dash timer is pretty much dead on and if it's off, it will read a .1 slow. PDR is always .1 to .2 slow and I've seen as much as .5 slow. The PDR should technically be .2 slower than the slip (if you stage shallow with both top and bottom lights on) because there is about .2 "rollout" before you break the last beam and start the drag strip timer, where PDR starts timing as soon as the vehicle moves. What puzzles me is how it is sometimes slower than that.

[Can'tHave2MuchHP]

The PDR is nearly useless for accurate times IMO. You'll need a V-Box for accurate recordings of things like 0-60, 0-100, top speed, ETs etc. Unless you're at the strip that is.