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Old 11-15-2017, 06:40 AM   #29
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I roll raced at the Street Car Takeover and was consistently close to 138 at Gateway Motorsports in October. Ran several 137's and 136's. My car does trap at 135+ from a dig at the track also and have been over 136 on one occasion. I have the 2300 Maggie and wouldn't have anything else. Its a stellar setup and next spring I'll be trapping close to 140 with my changes this winter. .
You have the “benefit” A8, lol. The M6 can’t 60’ as well yet. I’ve only seen one under a 1.7x and it’s not consistent. I’m trapping at 126 with nothing engine wise but a P1SC on 7.5psi. My car currently makes more then enough HP to run 10.8x if I could get your 60’. Hopefully we can get the ECM to let us launch hard over the winter.

Id love to see a comparison of just the blowers on an identical car. As in take your Maggie off and bolt on a P1 with a stock manifold, and see what happens when they have identical boost numbers. I’d bet they’re pretty evenly matched.
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Old 11-15-2017, 06:40 AM   #30
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Hey man, just a noob in the FI world. Previously all I had to do was plug in a tuner and tada 200 more hp. I think I'm getting it though. Problem is that my car is a M6 so no 3600 stall to help me out. Just want instant power as soon as I downshift and no slowdown when I shift. Right now the Whipple is at the top of my list due to the glorious blower whine and ZL1Tommy reaching 900+whp with it without a 416ci. Also rode in my family friends hellcat and yes the twin screw is intoxicating. All I'm trying to do is figure out will a centri beat a twinscrew in a similarly modified car with perfect shifts and conditions? Also is a the 2650>2.9?
1. Try driving or riding in two cars that are PD & Centri with comparable power.
2. Decide how you like your power, do you want a initial power hit that flattens and holds thru the power range, then falls off a bit at the top. Or do you want a the feeling of making more and more power the faster you go. The surge of power as I call it.

In my opinion having time in both cars thats the feeling I get from them. Many will argue they are equal or comparable. I personally do not find that to be true, I find that they have very different styles. For my taste I am building a 416/F1A 6spd 1LE specifically for roll racing, Mexico runs and so on. I want the power in the mid and upper range, I want that linear surge that keeps building up. This is very much a personal preference. Get some rides and then make a choice bro. Each blower will get you there, ultimately the Centri cars make more power if you want the BIG numbers. But again take a ride in each before making a choice
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Old 11-15-2017, 08:17 AM   #31
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You have the “benefit” A8, lol. The M6 can’t 60’ as well yet. I’ve only seen one under a 1.7x and it’s not consistent. I’m trapping at 126 with nothing engine wise but a P1SC on 7.5psi. My car currently makes more then enough HP to run 10.8x if I could get your 60’. Hopefully we can get the ECM to let us launch hard over the winter.

Id love to see a comparison of just the blowers on an identical car. As in take your Maggie off and bolt on a P1 with a stock manifold, and see what happens when they have identical boost numbers. I’d bet they’re pretty evenly matched.
Base Maggie IC setups with nothing else done are trapping around 129.
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Old 11-15-2017, 08:32 AM   #32
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Base Maggie IC setups with nothing else done are trapping around 129.
On an A8 or M6?
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Old 11-15-2017, 09:13 AM   #33
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F1A is a hard hard hitting blower for roll racing.

TX2K is littered with C5, C6's and now C7's / Camaros packing that blower and doing monster pulls.


These new transmissions and having so many gears, keep blowers in the "sweet spot" so perfectly, its what makes the centrifugals work so awesome.
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Old 11-15-2017, 09:17 AM   #34
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F1A is a hard hard hitting blower for roll racing.

TX2K is littered with C5, C6's and now C7's / Camaros packing that blower and doing monster pulls.


These new transmissions and having so many gears, keep blowers in the "sweet spot" so perfectly, its what makes the centrifugals work so awesome.
Lets hope thats true on my car LOL
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Old 11-15-2017, 09:46 AM   #35
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F1A is a hard hard hitting blower for roll racing.

TX2K is littered with C5, C6's and now C7's / Camaros packing that blower and doing monster pulls.


These new transmissions and having so many gears, keep blowers in the "sweet spot" so perfectly, its what makes the centrifugals work so awesome.
Agreed.
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Old 11-15-2017, 09:49 AM   #36
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OP what I'm trying to say is, they are all capable of making great power, and running great numbers. What you see on YouTube isn't an indicator. Wanna run 9s, they all do, wanna make 800-1000 they do that too. Just that someone's preference is just their preference. I chose the F1 as it has the greatest power potential, mild mannered and ease of use. And they are bad ass!
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Old 11-15-2017, 09:53 AM   #37
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I wish there was a place where Camaros got together, drag raced, maybe roll raced, maybe went to Mexico. Then we could see many set ups doing the same thing...
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Old 11-15-2017, 10:07 AM   #38
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If its half mile pulls I would go with a centri. But you will want a fairly aggressive cam and match up with the correct head unit to push the top end. Also since you are a manual make sure you are thinking about gearing and tire size. You don't want to be pushing the car in the top end using an overdrive gear.

Lots and LOTS of things to think about when it comes to half mile.
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Old 11-15-2017, 10:52 AM   #39
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Lots and LOTS of things to think about when it comes to half mile.
And sadly those stock ring gaps, are the thing that MOST should be concerned with.... 1/2 mile is a LONG time to heat those rings up. (no matter what power adder)
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Old 11-15-2017, 12:52 PM   #40
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Id love to see a comparison of just the blowers on an identical car. As in take your Maggie off and bolt on a P1 with a stock manifold, and see what happens when they have identical boost numbers. I’d bet they’re pretty evenly matched.
All you need to do is post engine MAP data from a 1/4 mile pass and you'll see the differences. A centrifugal will normally post a higher peak power number than a PD (because of the squared boost curve), but it will need to in order to have similar performance - a quick comparison of the MAP data during an accel run will show you why.
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Old 11-15-2017, 03:31 PM   #41
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All you need to do is post engine MAP data from a 1/4 mile pass and you'll see the differences. A centrifugal will normally post a higher peak power number than a PD (because of the squared boost curve), but it will need to in order to have similar performance - a quick comparison of the MAP data during an accel run will show you why.
I have this from a bunch of runs with HPTuners, I’ll
Have to look at a PD to compare.
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Old 11-15-2017, 04:48 PM   #42
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I wish there was a place where Camaros got together, drag raced, maybe roll raced, maybe went to Mexico. Then we could see many set ups doing the same thing...
Would be bad ass to set up a competition at say TX2k or something. Battle of the heavy chevy's lol
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