[ChefBorOzzy]

Originally Posted by Sol4rfl4re

It clearly visible there for 2005 and 2015. The problem with 2011 is the huge debut of the camaro along with the transformers movies kinda kept those numbers down. But there are people selling their 15-17 on the forums to try to get into the "latest and greatest". I don't foresee a huge jump but I see the digital dash, magnaride and active exhaust tickling the butts of a lot of fanboys

To the person above that says camaro and challengers sales are up....Evidence shows both vehicles would have to outdo last years oct/nov/dec sales in order to just break even with 2016 numbers, the camaro needing to sell more.

2005 and 2015 were not refreshes..

[BlaqWhole]

Originally Posted by ChefBorOzzy

2005 and 2015 were not refreshes..

I don't think this refresh will see a huge (if any) sales increase based on how it looks. I think the selling point will be the A10 trans and the 460 hp. That is the only reason I could see that would make people wait for it.

[Sol4rfl4re]

Originally Posted by ChefBorOzzy

2005 and 2015 were not refreshes..

No, you're right about that, but has it features some things never before optioned on a mustang.

To blaqwhole, I'll repeat exactly what you told me, get in line and talk to me in a respectful manner without the trolling/immature name calling or I will go to a mod so he can put you in line.

Please show me a definitive trend here that shows an increase in sales on a monthly bases over the last 3 years...

http://fcauthority.com/fiat-chrysler...sales-numbers/

[drew peacock]

many people selling there's here now..some at a give away price aswell.
i sold mine just the right time...hot sunny day just after we get our tax re-bates back.

i dont think it sold too well here..no where near as nice as the camaro to look at i know that.
when i had my bumble-bee camaro 10 people a day stopped me and asked me about it.
not one ever asked me about the mustang.
ugly pos of a car...HATE the damn things and wouldn't have a 2018 for free

[SpeedIsLife]

Originally Posted by drew peacock

many people selling there's here now..some at a give away price aswell.
i sold mine just the right time...hot sunny day just after we get our tax re-bates back.

i dont think it sold too well here..no where near as nice as the camaro to look at i know that.
when i had my bumble-bee camaro 10 people a day stopped me and asked me about it.
not one ever asked me about the mustang.
ugly pos of a car...HATE the damn things and wouldn't have a 2018 for free

The Mustang has been utterly clubbing the crap out of the Camaro across Europe.

[SpeedIsLife]

Originally Posted by BuckeyeROC

Probably b/c the Mustang looks European, too much so for my taste. And don't many Euro countries tax on the size (liters) of the engine? If so, the Mustang with only 5.0L would be cheaper in that regard.

A number of reasons..

1: The Mustang does look more European

2: Most European countries do tax based on engine displacement

3: The Mustang has been much, much more localized (RHD, etc)

4: They're more easily purchased and ordered as well.

[drew peacock]

Originally Posted by SpeedIsLife

The Mustang has been utterly clubbing the crap out of the Camaro across Europe.

yes because they are easier to buy. ford dealers on every corner

[drew peacock]

and the camaro is 13 000 usd more..
mustang is crap end of.

DONT BUY ONE PEEPS

[BlaqWhole]

Originally Posted by Sol4rfl4re

To blaqwhole, I'll repeat exactly what you told me, get in line and talk to me in a respectful manner without the trolling/immature name calling or I will go to a mod so he can put you in line.

Then like I said, either address me or don't. But don't sit here playing the victim when you threw insults, called me a liar, and basically challenged everything I said even when my comments matched many Mustang owner's complaints. I owned one of these cars. And my comments reflect what I noticed and what others have noticed. If yours worked perfectly fine then good for you. But if you challenge me then I'll throw it right back at you.

Originally Posted by SpeedIsLife

The Mustang has been utterly clubbing the crap out of the Camaro across Europe.

It was. I'm not sure if it has been selling as good recently. And it is mostly due to the styling and the Ecoboost engine. Ford has been throwing crazy incentives at dealerships to push the EB. They basically give them away. I've seen 60 year old women walking out of dealerships with EB Stangs thrown at them.

[BlaqWhole]

Originally Posted by SpeedIsLife

A number of reasons..

1: The Mustang does look more European

2: Most European countries do tax based on engine displacement

3: The Mustang has been much, much more localized (RHD, etc)

4: They're more easily purchased and ordered as well.

And I also think there is something with the cost of gas over there from what I read. Which is why they pushed the turbo 4cyl soo hard. Last year dealerships around me had like 3 EBs to every one GT. And they were just letting them go because they want to sell as many as possible. But in the meantime the quality of each individual unit suffers.

[FastCarFanBoy]

Originally Posted by SpeedIsLife

The Mustang has been utterly clubbing the crap out of the Camaro across Europe.

Originally Posted by BlaqWhole

It was. I'm not sure if it has been selling as good recently. And it is mostly due to the styling and the Ecoboost engine. Ford has been throwing crazy incentives at dealerships to push the EB. They basically give them away. I've seen 60 year old women walking out of dealerships with EB Stangs thrown at them.

Do you have any data to back this up or is this more "fake news" from you? Everything I have read says the take rate on the 5.0 is much higher overseas then it is in N.A.

[Sol4rfl4re]

Originally Posted by FastCarFanBoy

Do you have any data to back this up or is this more "fake news" from you? Everything I have read says the take rate on the 5.0 is much higher overseas then it is in N.A.

its fact because he's saying it. After 27 pages I have realized no matter the data you post, its a lie and he's right.

[BlaqWhole]

Originally Posted by FastCarFanBoy

Do you have any data to back this up or is this more "fake news" from you? Everything I have read says the take rate on the 5.0 is much higher overseas then it is in N.A.

You have a 4 year old Mustang...I don't feel the need to answer to you.

Originally Posted by Sol4rfl4re

its fact because he's saying it. After 27 pages I have realized no matter the data you post, its a lie and he's right.

Yup. Just like all of your lies about Mustangs "deep in the 12s" and DD Shelbys running high boost and making over 800 to the wheels. At least what I say is more believable than your nonsense. Oh wait, I better take that back and apologize before you run to the moderators and tell on me...

[Sol4rfl4re]

Ford website states 18mpg city/27highway. Someone posted a sticker earlier that said 25mpg highway, not sure what the discrepancy is.