[Bongos2U]

Originally Posted by tchowe

I forwent the NPP on my V6, added the GM/Borla performance exhaust and personally I enjoy that sound even better than the NPP. It's more of a lower pitch growl. Can't go wrong with either, just personal preference.

I know that the GM performance exhaust is made by Borla, but is it the same system as the S-Type? I thought it was more like the Borla Touring system.

[Red Chief]

Originally Posted by KMPrenger

I'm an SS owner now, but I really like the V6 cars a lot too. I'd be happy to be in one. I come from a modded 2010 V6/RS and I really enjoyed that car.

Driving the Gen 5 V6 didn't give you any frame of reference for the new one. I don't mean that as a slight-- I never would have believed it either until I test drove my 2016.

Subtracting 300lbs from the inertia of braking and cornering made a bigger difference than I expected. I guess that's partly why the V6 was faster around the Lightning Lap than the Mustang GT.

[cellsafemode]

Originally Posted by Red Chief

Driving the Gen 5 V6 didn't give you any frame of reference for the new one. I don't mean that as a slight-- I never would have believed it either until I test drove my 2016.

Subtracting 300lbs from the inertia of braking and cornering made a bigger difference than I expected. I guess that's partly why the V6 was faster around the Lightning Lap than the Mustang GT.

weight reduction, chassis stiffening, weight distribution, transmission. Definitely makes a difference even if engine power output remains the same.

[Marty McFlew]

V 6s have come a long way. They can keep up with the 60s and 70s muscle cars. Not neccesarily do to power but power management allows the use of all the power to be put to the ground due to efficient transmissions and tires mostly. For instance the old muscle cars had all the HP and Tq you needed but they just failed to efficiently use and put that power to pavement. No sticky rubber tires and very inefficient 2, 3 and 4 speed transmissions that would lose so much RPMs and momentum as they would shift to the next higher gear. Add some sticky tires and a good modern close ratio trans to an old 396 and it will run with the new SS Camaro but the gas mileage would still be 10 or 12 mpg.

[Glen e]

Originally Posted by Bongos2U

I know that the GM performance exhaust is made by Borla, but is it the same system as the S-Type? I thought it was more like the Borla Touring system.

I have the GM system and asked Lisa at Borla if I should upgrade to the S system for a little bit more noise. She wrote back and said not to upgrade, that essentially the GM system and borla S systems were the same.

[IMadeYouReadThis]

Originally Posted by Red Chief

Driving the Gen 5 V6 didn't give you any frame of reference for the new one. I don't mean that as a slight-- I never would have believed it either until I test drove my 2016.

Subtracting 300lbs from the inertia of braking and cornering made a bigger difference than I expected. I guess that's partly why the V6 was faster around the Lightning Lap than the Mustang GT.

Agreed it's night and day difference it would be way more comparable to the fifth gen SS in stock form than the 5tg gen V6 100%. The fifth gen SS would be slightly faster, like I've said before I don't know how many people have driven 4th gen SS or Z28 but that's what this car is like.