[BradfordCamaro]

Ok. 2 things.
$3K sound alright for Cam Install - remember I'm a retail guy, no connections, no inside line. $700 parts-$700 Tune-$1700 install is how I break it up.

100K mile Cam?....I drive 10K a year. Car will be gone in 5. Don't need a forever Cam

[Harit0]

Originally Posted by BradfordCamaro

Ok. 2 things.
$3K sound alright for Cam Install - remember I'm a retail guy, no connections, no inside line. $700 parts-$700 Tune-$1700 install is how I break it up.

100K mile Cam?....I drive 10K a year. Car will be gone in 5. Don't need a forever Cam

This would be ideal

[oldman]

Originally Posted by BradfordCamaro

Ok. 2 things.
$3K sound alright for Cam Install - remember I'm a retail guy, no connections, no inside line. $700 parts-$700 Tune-$1700 install is how I break it up.

100K mile Cam?....I drive 10K a year. Car will be gone in 5. Don't need a forever Cam

if you need to pay for the work it probably better to do cam and heads at the same time if you do a non-AFM cam as the heads have to come off to change the motor to non-AFM configuration. The only cheap cam would be a AFM compatable cam, change the valve springs on the car so to say.


Yep we are all different, I won't add a "performance" part to my car that can't go 100K. Just me.

[DFW1LE]

Originally Posted by oldman

Yep we are all different, I won't add a "performance" part to my car that can't go 100K. Just me.

I am not looking for a 100K motor, but I want the motor to be able to handle 5+ tracking sessions per year for a number of years without a total bottom end build. Oldman is right about some of these high lift cams causing issues, so likewise, I would opt for something more in the middle between a mild and aggressive cam, but to each his own.

[oldman]

http://www.lingenfelter.com/product/L210306914.html

smooth idle cam with .576" lift, should work well with near stock engines.

DOD/AFM Compatible
DOD Lobes: intake/exhaust
Duration @ .050 valve lift 219 / 231 Lift with 1.8 rocker .576 .576 LSA 116

Non DOD Lobes: intake/exhaust
Duration @ .050 valve lift 217 / 229
Lift with 1.8 rocker .576 .576 LSA 116
Lingenfelter GT30 Camshaft GM Gen V Engine LT1/L83/L86
Suggested for normally aspirated engine applications with stock cubic inch, or larger cubic inch applications desiring a non-aggressive idle.

[DFW1LE]

The GT30 looks like a reasonable and conservative choice. With heads (ported/polished/valve job) and headers, I wonder what the curves would look like?

[drivingagain]

I think you could get a better deal through PRAY to port and polish the heads then lingenfelter though. They want 1,500-1,600 on stock heads sent to them.

[DFW1LE]

Originally Posted by drivingagain

I think you could get a better deal through PRAY to port and polish the heads then lingenfelter though. They want 1,500-1,600 on stock heads sent to them.

I didn't say I'd go to Lingenfelter for the heads, just liked their cam profile. There are several options for head work that I still need to look into.

[oldman]

Originally Posted by DFW1LE

I didn't say I'd go to Lingenfelter for the heads, just liked their cam profile. There are several options for head work that I still need to look into.

amen.

[7stringtheory]

I'm telling you guys check out Frankenstein Engineering Dynamics in DFW they will custom grind a camshaft to whatever profile tailored to the exact application that you want, do whatever work you want on the heads and port match them to the intake...

[BradfordCamaro]

Originally Posted by 7stringtheory

I'm telling you guys check out Frankenstein Engineering Dynamics in DFW they will custom grind a camshaft to whatever profile tailored to the exact application that you want, do whatever work you want on the heads and port match them to the intake...

Who doesn't grind a camshaft anyway you want? or a Head?....
Don't forget, we are not Race Teams with 6 figure budgets.

[PRAY]

I am going to do my best to get my heads on the car in a week or two. I will do pre and post dyno sessions as close as possible as well.

There are a ton of options for heads and cams these days. Do your homework and find out what best suits your specific needs.

[GuywithL86]

Imo supercharger is likely actually safe on the motor for a DD. Forced induction only adds torque. NA power adds power through torque and rpm.

You can gain hp by increasing torque and/or increasing rpm, gaining hp through torque is always easier for the engine then increasing rpm..

The problem is forced induction has a lot of heat issues. High egt's and intake temps are difficult to manage especially with an aftermarket application, and sustained power through forced induction becomes more dangerous.

So it depends what your intent is. If a daily driver and you don't intend on long periods of repeated WOT, a supercharger is likely easier on the motor. Take it on a race track though, or even texas mile events, and it's more than likely you'll be able to do a lot more of those on an NA build.

That's not discussing the transmission and drivetrain though, torque is their enemy where as hp through rpm is no problem at all. Not much of an issue with the 8l90 though until you are making big power.

[7stringtheory]

Originally Posted by BradfordCamaro

Who doesn't grind a camshaft anyway you want? or a Head?....
Don't forget, we are not Race Teams with 6 figure budgets.

They are competitively priced, they don't require a 6 figure budget....many people in this thread are local to their area, and it would take 15 minutes to talk to them and get a quote for what they are looking for. In fact I got a quote for heads + camshaft and it was cheaper after install then a lot of the figures already mentioned here.