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Old 02-13-2017, 12:37 PM   #1
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ARH Long tubes w/ Cats (long sys) - Borla S-Types

Here are a few videos of my 1LE with Borla S-Types, ARH 1 7/8th long tubes with HF cats (long system).

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Both videos were takin in sport mode. The tone is the same in tour and stealth, just not as much volume. No drone at any RPM.

Also, for some of you that have not heard it from the outside, you can here the no lift shift really well here. Personally I think it sounds like crap, but damn it works well!

Does anyone else notice how suprisingly well these cars hook up from a dig? My S197 would be wreck waiting to happen through 3rd gear in this same scenario.

http://vid1224.photobucket.com/album...ps0o43mqu3.mp4

http://vid1224.photobucket.com/album...psagfpwpvl.mp4
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Old 02-13-2017, 02:46 PM   #2
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Did the S tpye rear section bolt right up to the ARH long system?
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Old 02-13-2017, 03:21 PM   #3
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Did the S tpye rear section bolt right up to the ARH long system?
Not really. Fit was poor. I took it to an exhaust shop and got it cleaned up.. Mainly the mid pipe portion was too long and needed to be cut back and clamped. Also, the midsection of the ARH lontubes, post x pipe, were laying on the support brace in the middle of the car causing a rattle. It all needed a little love to get fixed.

If I had to do it again, I would have just bough the LTH w/ cats, and the Borla S types, and had a exhaust shop make the entire mid section of the system.
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Old 02-13-2017, 09:40 PM   #4
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Not really. Fit was poor. I took it to an exhaust shop and got it cleaned up.. Mainly the mid pipe portion was too long and needed to be cut back and clamped. Also, the midsection of the ARH lontubes, post x pipe, were laying on the support brace in the middle of the car causing a rattle. It all needed a little love to get fixed.

If I had to do it again, I would have just bough the LTH w/ cats, and the Borla S types, and had a exhaust shop make the entire mid section of the system.
Thanks for the info. I already have the Borla x pipe and rear section. When i do headers I think ill just cut the Borla piece to mate up to the headers.
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Old 02-14-2017, 06:06 AM   #5
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Sounds great, much louder than stock. On no lift shift, do u have to be in a certain mode? I tired to do it a few weeks ago and I was bouncing off the rev limiter...didn't seem like it was working. It surely didn't sound like yours
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Old 02-14-2017, 09:00 AM   #6
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I was just in sport, keep your foot on the floor and start rowing !!!
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Old 02-14-2017, 11:14 AM   #7
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Very helpful vid as I have ARH's full system and considering to replace its axle back to Borla S. It's so sad since you said it is kinda hard to connect them directly together..
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I was just in sport, keep your foot on the floor and start rowing !!!
does it keep rpms at same place or were you bouncing off rev limiter?
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Old 02-14-2017, 03:56 PM   #9
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Very helpful vid as I have ARH's full system and considering to replace its axle back to Borla S. It's so sad since you said it is kinda hard to connect them directly together..

You would have to chop the factory exhaust either way with any axle back. Although since the ARH is 3 inch that is probably what makes it more difficult. I have the borla catback so it would probably be pretty easy in my case to mate up a set of headers.
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Old 02-14-2017, 04:43 PM   #10
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does it keep rpms at same place or were you bouncing off rev limiter?
It does. That's the point of it. If your bouncing off the limiter it's not working. Mine does not bounce off the limiter, that's why it has the weird sound.

Someone could probably chime in here if it's a spark or fuel cut, my guess is fuel cut because it doesn't back fire or pop like a normal WOT box would and they cut spark
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Old 02-15-2017, 04:21 PM   #11
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sounds great!
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Old 02-16-2017, 07:16 AM   #12
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Very helpful vid as I have ARH's full system and considering to replace its axle back to Borla S. It's so sad since you said it is kinda hard to connect them directly together..
Why would you want to do that? I've got the full system as well with just one set of high flow cats and my NPP and it sounds fantastic. You're not going to gain any power doing that either.
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Old 02-16-2017, 11:47 AM   #13
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Why would you want to do that? I've got the full system as well with just one set of high flow cats and my NPP and it sounds fantastic. You're not going to gain any power doing that either.
Im sure he knows that. I did it to get rid of the suit case and the Borla sound at idle is much better than the stock system was. It helped that I got my Borla system for sub 1k so there is that. (Amazon Reward points FTW)
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Old 02-16-2017, 02:07 PM   #14
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Someone could probably chime in here if it's a spark or fuel cut, my guess is fuel cut because it doesn't back fire or pop like a normal WOT box would and they cut spark

According to the C7 forums (that have had no lift shift longer than us) it is spark cut and the injectors do not stop. A few have said they data logged it. I also don't think a non spark cut would hold rpm like that?

Did you have active rev match on or off? Over on the C7 forums they seem to think it could possibly act different depending on if this is on or off. But it doesn't need to be on.

Mine definitely doesn't seem to make as much of that "farty" noise as yours, but that could be due to your more open exhaust or maybe the fact I've never heard my car from the outside like that. Plus, I haven't really used no lift shift all that much yet.

As we have spoken about before, mine seems to make more of a single crack/gunshot like sound when doing it. Others have said the same. I had thought you mentioned yours did that too?
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