Imperfections with recent PPF install

penbralat · 12-03-2016, 12:55 AM

Quick update with my tint and PPF install. I was on my way to the shop to drop my car off this past week to have the window tint and PPF installed when the owner called me and offered to send his guys to my house to do it instead. I was somewhat worried about them doing it at my house as it's less sterile and was quite windy outside and I was worried that debris would get blown around and trapped under the film. Well...the window tint came out perfect; couldn't be happier but as for the PFF, that's somewhat of another story. The hood and CF insert look really good but the side mirrors and front are less than desirable. I can see several areas that have dirt and/or sand under the film as well as two spots where there appears to be some type of lint trapped under the film. There was also an area under the lip of the front fender that has a good amount of water trapped under the film which spans about 6 inches in length. There are also numerous water spots (bubbles) that will more than likely evaporate but I wanted to get your guys opinions on whether I should ask them to redo the film on these areas or if this is within reason. Again, I originally wanted to take my car to their shop as they have an indoor sterile bay to work in opposed to having the work done at my house but they insisted it would be fine. These guys have rave reviews on Yelp, Google, etc. and are highly rated in my area so I want to give them the benefit of the doubt. I'm attaching some photos for reference so that it gives an idea of what I'm talking about. So again, am I being picky or is this unacceptable work? I have had PPF installed on previous vehicles that were white and never noticed issues like these. I know darker colors can bring out the smallest of imperfections but for $1,200 I personally expect better. I appreciate the feedback!

Gen6 · 12-03-2016, 01:16 AM

How long after install did you take these pictures? When I had my car done it took several days for the pockets, bubbles, and smudges to go away. The parts that are not adhering to the body, I took back to the installer and they fix them.

penbralat · 12-03-2016, 01:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Gen6

How long after install did you take these pictures? When I had my car done it took several days for the pockets, bubbles, and smudges to go away. The parts that are not adhering to the body, I took back to the installer and they fix them.

It has only been a few days. I let the car sit out in the sun for the past couple of days but it's been cool and cloudy out (go figure). I know it'll take several days for the water spots to evaporate but I'm more concerned with those thumb sized areas that have some type of thread or lint under the film. It's kind of an eye sore and can be felt when rubbing your finger over it.

Evolvedx27 · 12-03-2016, 01:31 AM

First off what kind of ppf? I would definitely have it redone. Unacceptable.

formoutofchaos · 12-03-2016, 02:51 AM

My friend owns a ceramic coating business and he constantly fixes bad jobs on migh end cars I would have it re done what brand is it ?

NB2017ZL1 · 12-03-2016, 05:42 AM

Unacceptable. My installer says he will take a lot longer than 2 days. Looks like a wack quick job. I would not accept this level of workmanship

Give him a chance to make it right and if he doesn't ask for your money back and get it done elsewhere. If you end up going somewhere else get some references / feedback first

This is almost an art. It's probably not the fault of the product it's the person doing the work.

.2c

penbralat · 12-03-2016, 07:44 AM

Okay, so I'm not being picky, then. My last two PPF installations have been damn near perfect on my other cars.

The film brand is Llumar; same as the window tint.

8675309’SS · 12-03-2016, 08:25 AM

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Originally Posted by NB2017ZL1

Unacceptable. My installer says he will take a lot longer than 2 days. Looks like a wack quick job. I would not accept this level of workmanship

Give him a chance to make it right and if he doesn't ask for your money back and get it done elsewhere. If you end up going somewhere else get some references / feedback first

This is almost an art. It's probably not the fault of the product it's the person doing the work.

+1
It's all about the installer. The edges, debris and smudes are issues. Water should evaporate. You aren't being picky IMO. I would ask for them to make it right, were I in your position. I would also make sure they do it in the shop. I am super happy with the work I had done on my car. Hope you get it worked out to your satisfaction.

Evolvedx27 · 12-03-2016, 09:45 AM

Gotta go with xpel

KLR ZL1 · 12-03-2016, 09:49 AM

Total redo. The fingerprints will not go away and the crease will not go away. I would take it to their shop and have the owner look at it. Bubbles as many as there are is a failure by the installer. When I had mine done on my 5G ZL1 the installer wore gloves to prevent any finger prints and it took the every bit of all day inside. How long did it take this guy and was he wearing gloves? Perfection takes time and patience.

penbralat · 12-03-2016, 10:36 AM

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Originally Posted by KLR ZL1

Total redo. The fingerprints will not go away and the crease will not go away. I would take it to their shop and have the owner look at it. Bubbles as many as there are is a failure by the installer. When I had mine done on my 5G ZL1 the installer wore gloves to prevent any finger prints and it took the every bit of all day inside. How long did it take this guy and was he wearing gloves? Perfection takes time and patience.

The sad part is that the guy worked on it here at my house for the good part of the day. I'd say in total he spent around 5 hours installing the film and no, neither him or his partner wore gloves. I'm going to let it dry some more over the weekend and see where we are after washing it but I'll definitely be calling the owner and discussing this with him. The installers did say while here that if there were any problems to let them know so I'm sure they'll be willing to fix it. I guess I'll be without a car for a few more days but this has to be fixed.

KaBoom1701 · 12-03-2016, 12:50 PM

Looks like crap....take it back

snackbar64 · 12-03-2016, 01:49 PM

If the cheese on my Big Mac ain't melted I'm takin' it back, so... I would have to have some justice on this one, buddy.

penbralat · 12-03-2016, 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by KaBoom1701

Looks like crap....take it back

Yeah, I agree. It sat in the sun all day today and looks better but those smudge and/or finger prints, lint and film not adhering is a deal breaker. I can tell at this point it's going to have to be done over again. What a pain in the ass.

12-03-2016, 12:55 AM	#1
penbralat Drives: '15 Summit White ZL1 Join Date: Oct 2014 Location: Windermere, FL Posts: 90	Imperfections with recent PPF install Quick update with my tint and PPF install. I was on my way to the shop to drop my car off this past week to have the window tint and PPF installed when the owner called me and offered to send his guys to my house to do it instead. I was somewhat worried about them doing it at my house as it's less sterile and was quite windy outside and I was worried that debris would get blown around and trapped under the film. Well...the window tint came out perfect; couldn't be happier but as for the PFF, that's somewhat of another story. The hood and CF insert look really good but the side mirrors and front are less than desirable. I can see several areas that have dirt and/or sand under the film as well as two spots where there appears to be some type of lint trapped under the film. There was also an area under the lip of the front fender that has a good amount of water trapped under the film which spans about 6 inches in length. There are also numerous water spots (bubbles) that will more than likely evaporate but I wanted to get your guys opinions on whether I should ask them to redo the film on these areas or if this is within reason. Again, I originally wanted to take my car to their shop as they have an indoor sterile bay to work in opposed to having the work done at my house but they insisted it would be fine. These guys have rave reviews on Yelp, Google, etc. and are highly rated in my area so I want to give them the benefit of the doubt. I'm attaching some photos for reference so that it gives an idea of what I'm talking about. So again, am I being picky or is this unacceptable work? I have had PPF installed on previous vehicles that were white and never noticed issues like these. I know darker colors can bring out the smallest of imperfections but for $1,200 I personally expect better. I appreciate the feedback! Attached Images __________________ Drives: 2017 ZL1 - Hyper Blue Metallic Drove: 2015 ZL1 - Summit White 2006 GTO - Phantom Black Last edited by penbralat; 12-03-2016 at 01:24 AM.

12-03-2016, 01:16 AM	#2
Gen6 Drives: 2019 ZL1 Join Date: Apr 2016 Location: San Jose, California Posts: 162	How long after install did you take these pictures? When I had my car done it took several days for the pockets, bubbles, and smudges to go away. The parts that are not adhering to the body, I took back to the installer and they fix them. __________________ Current: 2019 ZL1 \| A10 \| PDR \| Lowered on Eibach \| Apex VS-5RS Forged (ZLE Specs) \| Borla Cat-back Past: 2017 2SS \| Auto\| Garnet Red Tintcoat \| Adrenaline Red \| 6 Piston Brembos \| MRC \| NPP \| Illuminated Front Bowtie \| Sunroof \| Navigation \| Ground effects \| Dark tail lights

12-03-2016, 05:42 AM	#6
NB2017ZL1 Drives: 2017 ZL1 10 Speed Hyper Blue Join Date: Jul 2016 Location: Canada Posts: 1,349	Unacceptable. My installer says he will take a lot longer than 2 days. Looks like a wack quick job. I would not accept this level of workmanship Give him a chance to make it right and if he doesn't ask for your money back and get it done elsewhere. If you end up going somewhere else get some references / feedback first This is almost an art. It's probably not the fault of the product it's the person doing the work. .2c __________________ 2017 ZL1

12-03-2016, 07:44 AM	#7
penbralat Drives: '15 Summit White ZL1 Join Date: Oct 2014 Location: Windermere, FL Posts: 90	Okay, so I'm not being picky, then. My last two PPF installations have been damn near perfect on my other cars. The film brand is Llumar; same as the window tint. __________________ Drives: 2017 ZL1 - Hyper Blue Metallic Drove: 2015 ZL1 - Summit White 2006 GTO - Phantom Black

12-03-2016, 09:49 AM	#10
KLR ZL1 H-Town Camaro Club Member Drives: 17 Hyper Blue Metallic KLR-ZL1 Join Date: May 2009 Location: Pearland Tx. Posts: 2,034 View My Garage	Total redo. The fingerprints will not go away and the crease will not go away. I would take it to their shop and have the owner look at it. Bubbles as many as there are is a failure by the installer. When I had mine done on my 5G ZL1 the installer wore gloves to prevent any finger prints and it took the every bit of all day inside. How long did it take this guy and was he wearing gloves? Perfection takes time and patience. __________________

12-03-2016, 01:31 AM	#4
Evolvedx27 Drives: 2017 ZL1 Join Date: Aug 2016 Location: Long Island, New York Posts: 1,042	First off what kind of ppf? I would definitely have it redone. Unacceptable.

12-03-2016, 02:51 AM	#5
formoutofchaos Drives: Camaro 2017 1LE Join Date: Feb 2016 Location: Atlanta Posts: 1,154	My friend owns a ceramic coating business and he constantly fixes bad jobs on migh end cars I would have it re done what brand is it ?

12-03-2016, 09:45 AM	#9
Evolvedx27 Drives: 2017 ZL1 Join Date: Aug 2016 Location: Long Island, New York Posts: 1,042	Gotta go with xpel

12-03-2016, 12:50 PM	#12
KaBoom1701 KaBoom1701 Drives: 13' ZL1 Red M6 Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: I.E. SoCal (Yucaipa) Posts: 8,631	Looks like crap....take it back __________________ Mods: Roto-Fab Intake, WW Res. kit & Big Gulp Air Scoop, Elite Catch Can, ATI Super Damper & 18% OD Pulley, LF Idler pulley bracket, Metco CC breather, ID850 Injectors, Stainless Power Headers w/ ceramic coating, TR71X Spark Plugs, JMS Fuel Pump Booster, Bo White TB, Tuned by Ted @ Jannetty Racing, Ron Davis HX, D3 Reservoir, Pfadt 1" Springs, Moreno Camber Plates, ZL1 Addons Splitter guard washers, Tow Hook kit & rock guards, Hurst Shifter Billet Plus 6 Speed Short Shifter, ZL1 DRL lighting harness, ZL1 Recaro Seats.

12-03-2016, 01:49 PM	#13
snackbar64 Drives: SW 2017 ZL1, M6, Carbon, Nav, MR, Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: Prosper, TX Posts: 801	If the cheese on my Big Mac ain't melted I'm takin' it back, so... I would have to have some justice on this one, buddy.

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