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Old 06-19-2016, 10:47 AM   #1
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Water Meth vs c16 & nitrous ??

I currently have a 50/50 water-meth kit in conjunction with my Procharger. I was talking to a guy from Nitrous Outlet and he said running a stand alone c16 fuel with pump gas and nitrous would be better for the car and produce better number especially the low end torque. Has any one done this to a gen6 or used that setup in anything else?
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Old 06-19-2016, 03:24 PM   #2
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My ZL1 has done all it's best runs on VP fuels C16. When I'm prepping for the Texas mile I fill the gas tank with C16 and retune the car to run C16, my "normal" tune is on 102 low lead aviation gas. I gain at least 30 whp just tuning for C16. I have tried a few racing fuels and the fuels that make more power than C16 degrade my engine oil. C16 is the best dependable fuel there is available today in my opinion.

When you spray nitrous (my ZL1 has been running nitrous for years) The spray converting from highly pressurized liquid to gas super-cools everything much better than methanol or anything else can do. It is like dumping liquid oxygen into the air stream, instant 90 degree drops in intake temp have been observed when the spray is triggered. If you set up a spray system with nitrous and C16 I suspect you could probably gain another 300-400 whp easy because the nitrous actually stabilizes combustion. But you are walking a fine line when you are pushing over 1000 crankshaft hp through these engines. I scorched a cylinder while spraying nitrous on one run... You think everything is safe and perfect and then s**t happens.
And the more you push it the more likely you are to come face to face with Murphy's law.

It can be done and on paper it can be be done very safely. It is easy to get greedy with nitrous because the power seems so easy. The nitrous actually works better with forced induction cars that have high intake temps. In a forced induction car with high intake temps the "100 shot" will easily give you 150 to 200 whp because your forced induction engine needs the cooling more than the air/fuel.

So I understand what the nitrous outlet rep is saying about producing better numbers, I think the intake temp would be cooler but high intake temps don't necessarily damage anything as long as the engine isn't knocking... As far as better overall for the car? It will be more efficient as long as it doesn't frag. I have lost one engine to nitrous but I still run nitrous in cars. Not in my daily driver. Hope that response helps.
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Old 06-20-2016, 08:51 AM   #3
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Thanks for the info!
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