[AZCamaroFan]

awesome

[SS 1LE]

Not bad for a 6 banger...

[John Wilde]

Originally Posted by Imp

Which was almost 400lbs heavier.

--kC
(Had an '08)

The G8 GT also had 1.6 times more cubic inches (219ci to 366cdi).
Seems like a great apples to watermelon comparison.

[The_Driver]

These are not the times people are getting in the real world though. Most are reporting 5.4 ish from 0-60. Maybe these test cars have a different tune than the ones on the dealer lots? They did this back in the 80's with the Iroc-Z using the hotter ARAP bin tune on the test cars.

On the 5th gen forums, a few members with LFX's are getting low to mid 5 sec 0-60's bone stock with the M6. So, these new LGX V6's are not that much faster than what the magazines will have you believe. I think most of the performance increase is due to the lighter curb weight.

Thoughts?

[thescreensavers]

^ Guys job at that mag is to drive cars he is really good at it. 5.4 vs 5.1 is pretty close a good driver can close that gap.

[Dustya]

Originally Posted by thescreensavers

^ Guys job at that mag is to drive cars he is really good at it. 5.4 vs 5.1 is pretty close a good driver can close that gap.

Also altitude and temperature have to be taken into consideration.

[Lightningquick]

Originally Posted by Phidelt59

Yeah it was a good read until they started beating the dead visibility horse. C&D is the worst at it. It's funyy how camaro articles always start a flame war in comments section.

You cannot see out of these cars. Everyone knows that. I couldnt see out of my 14 and this is worse.

[jdasnt3]

I love this car! I need a 2LT for a daily driver.

[KMPrenger]

Originally Posted by The_Driver

These are not the times people are getting in the real world though. Most are reporting 5.4 ish from 0-60. Maybe these test cars have a different tune than the ones on the dealer lots? They did this back in the 80's with the Iroc-Z using the hotter ARAP bin tune on the test cars.

On the 5th gen forums, a few members with LFX's are getting low to mid 5 sec 0-60's bone stock with the M6. So, these new LGX V6's are not that much faster than what the magazines will have you believe. I think most of the performance increase is due to the lighter curb weight.

Thoughts?

Different tune than the ones on the dealer lots...is this a serious comment??

The 6th gen V6 Camaro is capable of low 5s 0 - 60 runs. Just b/c "real" owners here may or may not have gotten them doesn't mean the car isn't capable. (By the way...some have indeed gotten mid - low 5s)

I was heavy into the V6 scene with my 5th gen V6. I loved that car, and it was pretty modded for an n/a V6 (not that there were a LOT of mods) I basically had everything except long tube headers (exhaust, cold air intake, ported T/B, ported intake manifold, manifold spacer, tune). Guys with full bolt ons/ tune, and drag radials haven't broken into the very low 13s in the 5th gen V6. I think the LFX is capable of it, but its not been recorded on Camaro5 to my knowledge. The best time for a modded n/a V6 listed on Camaro5 is 13.4 at 102mph. Some cars have seen 103 - 104 but with slightly worse ETs.

This car has seen several 13.6 - 13.7 bone stock runs at 102 - 103. I'd bet money with simple bolt ons and tune, and stock tires it will match or beat the best 5th gen V6 times, and likely run 2 - 3 mph better.

250+ pounds lighter with slightly better top end power = faster. With the automatic V6s, they have an even greater advantage with that 8 speed auto. Mark my words, we will see someone take an N/A Camaro V6 with bolt ons/tune/tires and it will run very low 13s. With skinnies up front and maybe a slight weight reduction we'll see very high 12s.

[GTIanZ28]

I've got a couple 5.6 second car recorded 0-60 times on the side road near my house. This is with basic tests late at night.... Fiddling with launching and trying to figure out a good rpm to launch the m6 at.

I'm not going to abuse my car on regular streets to truly figure it out. Slamming 2nd isn't an issue (for what it's worth - no spin issue for me so far).... But, even a 3000 rpm launch I get a lot of wheel spin on asphalt.

I'm betting the test was done on a track with some prep. Street times aren't going to match track times and car measurements aren't going to match measured track times.

Edit: I'm in Oregon. Roads are damp.... And almost none are flat. I'll try a few more. Only tried a few times so far.

[The_Driver]

Originally Posted by KMPrenger

Different tune than the ones on the dealer lots...is this a serious comment??

The 6th gen V6 Camaro is capable of low 5s 0 - 60 runs. Just b/c "real" owners here may or may not have gotten them doesn't mean the car isn't capable. (By the way...some have indeed gotten mid - low 5s)

I was heavy into the V6 scene with my 5th gen V6. I loved that car, and it was pretty modded for an n/a V6 (not that there were a LOT of mods) I basically had everything except long tube headers (exhaust, cold air intake, ported T/B, ported intake manifold, manifold spacer, tune). Guys with full bolt ons/ tune, and drag radials haven't broken into the very low 13s in the 5th gen V6. I think the LFX is capable of it, but its not been recorded on Camaro5 to my knowledge. The best time for a modded n/a V6 listed on Camaro5 is 13.4 at 102mph. Some cars have seen 103 - 104 but with slightly slower ETs.

This car has seen several 13.6 - 13.7 bone stock runs at 102 - 103. I'd bet money with simple bolt ons and tune, and stock tires it will match or beat the best 5th gen V6 times, and likely run 2 - 3 mph better.

250+ pounds lighter with slightly better top end power = faster. With the automatic V6s, they have an even greater advantage with that 8 speed auto. Mark my words, we will see someone take an N/A Camaro V6 with bolt ons/tune/tires and it will run very low 13s. With skinnies up front and maybe a slight weight reduction we'll see very high 12s.

Yeah, I know the 6th gen is slightly faster due to the lighter curb weight and the better geared slick shifting A8. However, there is a member on here who posted his 0-60 times in cool weather with his 5th gen LFX M6 and got a low to mid 5 sec 0-60. These are around the same times that the 6th gen V6 is reportedly achieving in magazine tests. So, either he is lying about his times or the LFX M6 is faster than most people think, at least from 0-60.

Sure, the 200- 300 lb weight disadvantage of the 5th gen will certainly slow its 1/4 mile time compared to the lighter 6th gen, but the LGX isn't that much faster on the top end. A slightly better flowing intake with an ever so slight of a smidgen bore increase by a mm or two. However, the couple of a tenths performance increase is primairily due to the lighter curb weight and better geared A8 transmission, if so equipped. But, we're comparing M6's here so the advantage of the 8-speed automatic is lost in this case.

As for if this is a serious comment, it is. GM has done this before in the past and I wouldn't put it past them. Take a 6th gen 6-speed manual V6 off the dealer's lot and test it. That would be the only way to know the real world performance. Now, I'm not saying the 6th gen V6 is not faster, it clearly is. But, exactly by how much, still remains to be seen.

Perhaps I'll get the privilege to have my butt handed to me by a 6th gen V6 manual, I don't know. One thing I do know is that our LFX's don't have 100% throttle until 4K rpms. And, that throttle restriction has to hamper the 0-60 times. I wonder if the LGX has the same throttle restriction too? I bet it doesn't.

[bballr4567]

Originally Posted by thescreensavers

^ Guys job at that mag is to drive cars he is really good at it. 5.4 vs 5.1 is pretty close a good driver can close that gap.

Ive nabbed a 5.3 already. The tires are really hard to get them to grip vs spin. You really have to be light on the clutch and almost full bore on the gas. It's tricky. I imagine that I'll be able to knock off a few tenths once it gets a tad warmer and I find some concrete.

[doc7000]

I have driven a few LFX Camaros and I am not sure about not having 100% throttle until 4,000rpms...... I know that the LFX is a bit gutless down low but pulls pretty hard up higher (torque peaked at 4,800rpms).

[Marty McFlew]

Originally Posted by Thor142

The 4 is. Not the 6

FI usually means Fuel injection.