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Old 02-11-2016, 09:11 AM   #71
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I am confused why people are so obsessed with the aesthetics of lowered vehicles on a highly track-focused vehicle. If the ride height was optimum (or close enough that minor variations had minor impact and major variations had negative impact) for the vehicle, why would you want to mess with that? Isnt that the exact opposite of what you would want to do with this car?
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Old 02-11-2016, 09:15 AM   #72
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The trouble with fender gaps on a car like this has to do with lower profile tires, stiffer springs (which won't compress under the same weight), and crash-test profiles....
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Old 02-11-2016, 09:15 AM   #73
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I'm not a fat guy and I can tell you when you throw a 1le hard into a corner with standard seats its a struggle to stay put.
Oh yeah I could believe that. For track use the Recaro seats are probably amazing. I am just basing my opinion of sitting in a car with Recaro at the autoshow, and thinking about commuting with those seats. Doesn't sound like fun to me lol.

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This could be a deal breaker for me. I'm 6'7" and within 30 seconds of sitting in the gen 5 Recarro seats I could tell the thigh support was too tight. But seeing as I'm outside of the 95th percentile, GM isn't going to care much about guys like me. Guess I could sell them, but it's a headache I didn't want to deal with.

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Like I said, completely understand why track focused seats come standard in a track focused model, but being on the round side makes it a tough decision lol.

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I lost 70 lbs on Atkins, you can do it! Reward yourself with the 1LE
haha even if I dropped 30 pounds I think they would still feel tight on me. that and this car will be way out of my price range now...stupid life priorities!
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it has more power...its available power is like a set kof double Ds (no matter where your face is... theyre everywhere) it has the suspension to mame it matter...(
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Old 02-11-2016, 09:18 AM   #74
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This remains to be seen. The GT350 is good, but it is not the "hero" car you seem to portray it as. That status is reserved for the "R" model. I think the 1LE will put Ford in its place...again.

A 2SS 1LE would be roughly equivalent to a GT350 with track and tech packages, which isn't possible, but would theoretically cost ~$62,000. But a 2SS 1LE isn't possible either, so the point is moot.
I was going to post this. The decision to limit this to the 1SS is similar to the Ford decision to make GT350 buyers choose between the Track and Tech packages. I saw two GT350s at the track recently but didn't make not of if they were Tech or track packs.

I will be impressed if the 1LE can keep up with a track pack on the track. The GT350 is a very impressive car. I will be impressed, but not surprised.
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Old 02-11-2016, 09:30 AM   #75
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Some of us have too much muscle for the seats too
Amen! I will end up replacing our standard seats in our 13 1LE with a racing seat, but it will have to be aftermarket to fit my shoulder area. If I got a 17 1LE, I would have to replace the GM Recaro ASAP so I could drive the car.
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Old 02-11-2016, 09:42 AM   #76
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Many comments on the lack of an automatic in the 1LE. Does anyone have a breakdown of the Z06 manual vs auto? Could it be GM has not seen it to be a worth while option on that car (meaning the majority are ordered with a manual), so they did not offer it on the 1LE?
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Old 02-11-2016, 09:45 AM   #77
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Yep, the 5th Gen 1LE also had this issue, thats why I immediately installed 1" (linear) lowering springs all around my 2014 1LE when I received it. But the 6th Gen 1LE looks to have even more wheel gap than the previous Gen 1LE, even with having 305's on the rear this time. I assume trying to find progressive lowering springs for the 6th Gen that will also work with the MRC system in the car will take some time.
Yeah, its real bad this go around. That is no complaint as I know this package is about 1 thing, and that is not appearance.

That said, we all want our cake and eat it to. What concerns me this go around is the suspension seems like it will be finer tuned that previously, and any random spring change will greatly effect performance. By random I mean anything not specific to the 1LE's new suspension.
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Old 02-11-2016, 09:45 AM   #78
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Many comments on the lack of an automatic in the 1LE. Does anyone have a breakdown of the Z06 manual vs auto? Could it be GM has not seen it to be a worth while option on that car (meaning the majority are ordered with a manual), so they did not offer it on the 1LE?
I would guess it was a conflict with the eLSD, rather than a sales volume issue. They may not have been able to get an eLSD with gears that would work for the Auto
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Old 02-11-2016, 09:49 AM   #79
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Many comments on the lack of an automatic in the 1LE. Does anyone have a breakdown of the Z06 manual vs auto? Could it be GM has not seen it to be a worth while option on that car (meaning the majority are ordered with a manual), so they did not offer it on the 1LE?
Nope, it has literally NEVER been an option. Weird how people set themselves up for being upset thinking they were going to change this for the first time this Gen.
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Nope, it has literally NEVER been an option. Weird how people set themselves up for being upset thinking they were going to change this for the first time this Gen.
I am aware it never was, but it never was on a Z06 until these C7's. GM could have changed their plan.
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Old 02-11-2016, 10:22 AM   #81
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I am aware it never was, but it never was on a Z06 until these C7's. GM could have changed their plan.
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Old 02-11-2016, 10:54 AM   #82
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Some of us have too much muscle for the seats too
Must be Rich Piana sized to have too much leg muscle to fit in a racing seat!
Good for you man!
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Old 02-11-2016, 11:04 AM   #83
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Many comments on the lack of an automatic in the 1LE. Does anyone have a breakdown of the Z06 manual vs auto? Could it be GM has not seen it to be a worth while option on that car (meaning the majority are ordered with a manual), so they did not offer it on the 1LE?
There have been other issues associated with the Z06 auto and track use. Don't think that relates to the 1LE really. Would be interesting to see the breakdown for Z07 package and auto's.
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Old 02-11-2016, 11:11 AM   #84
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I am confused why people are so obsessed with the aesthetics of lowered vehicles on a highly track-focused vehicle. If the ride height was optimum (or close enough that minor variations had minor impact and major variations had negative impact) for the vehicle, why would you want to mess with that? Isnt that the exact opposite of what you would want to do with this car?
A lower center of gravity is very important when tracking (plus it looks good). GM can not choose to use optimum ride height as many drivers wouldn't be capable of carefully driving a low car on a regular basis. They would hit stuff, and head right to the dealer for warranty work and such. There are companies making lowering springs for the MRC on the Corvette and V Series Caddy's, so it is only a matter of time before they are out for the Camaro. A 1"-1.25" drop would be perfect...
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