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Old 02-03-2016, 08:04 AM   #463
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I keep hearing "track" where you brake, turn in, apex, feed throttle and track out where the whole thing takes more than a few seconds to go from start to finish, then you re-do that for each corner.

How does the MRC react when you have about 50-60 turns, in less than a minute? (Autox). Slaloms, VERY quick (but smooth) direction changes, etc... I get that it works great when you can make the car take a set in a turn at high-ish speeds and it takes about 5-6 seconds to PER TURN. But for autox, those 5-6 seconds are about 5-6 separate inputs and direction changes. FAST (again, but smooth) while balancing the car at 50ish mph on the edge of the tires adhesion, while balancing the car on the brakes and gas at the same time.

Can MRC keep up without overheating at national level autox? 50-60 "turns" per minute. Not 10-12 corners in 2 minutes. This is where the DSSV comes in REALLY handy as you CAN adjust the compression and rebound separately (which it is kind of necessary to separate the two for the "fast" autox drivers).

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Old 02-03-2016, 08:09 AM   #464
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I keep hearing "track" where you brake, turn in, apex, feed throttle and track out where the whole thing takes more than a few seconds to go from start to finish, then you re-do that for each corner.

How does the MRC react when you have about 50-60 turns, in less than a minute? (Autox). Slaloms, VERY quick (but smooth) direction changes, etc... I get that it works great when you can make the car take a set in a turn at high-ish speeds and it takes about 5-6 seconds to PER TURN. But for autox, those 5-6 seconds are about 5-6 separate inputs and direction changes. FAST (again, but smooth) while balancing the car at 50ish mph on the edge of the tires adhesion, while balancing the car on the brakes and gas at the same time.

Can MRC keep up without overheating at national level autox? 50-60 corners per minute. Not 10-12 corners in 2 mintues.

--kC
The system is designed to handle constant adjustments on the fly, just driving down the road, 1000 times a second. It can keep up with turns of that frequency just fine. In fact, if you compare such an autox event to a pock-marked road of the same length...the autox course may actually be less of a stress on the damper.

The only thing that *might* overheat the system would be miles of bad cobblestone...
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Old 02-03-2016, 08:13 AM   #465
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The system is designed to handle constant adjustments on the fly, just driving down the road, 1000 times a second. It can keep up with turns of that frequency just fine. In fact, if you compare such an autox event to a pock-marked road of the same length...the autox course may actually be less of a stress on the damper.

The only thing that *might* overheat the system would be miles of bad cobblestone...
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Old 02-03-2016, 09:46 AM   #466
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The system is designed to handle constant adjustments on the fly, just driving down the road, 1000 times a second. It can keep up with turns of that frequency just fine. In fact, if you compare such an autox event to a pock-marked road of the same length...the autox course may actually be less of a stress on the damper.

The only thing that *might* overheat the system would be miles of bad cobblestone...
when I think of it 1kHz and the DSSV is mentioned to have better transition from compression to rebound. if the controller is increased to 1mHz, that issue would go away. That should just be a matter of time no?
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Old 02-03-2016, 10:15 AM   #467
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when I think of it 1kHz and the DSSV is mentioned to have better transition from compression to rebound. if the controller is increased to 1mHz, that issue would go away. That should just be a matter of time no?
That is less than a .001 seconds difference on initial rebound. And its not that MRC isn't rebounding at that point, it just may be in a non-optimum state.

Remember, MRC doesn't force it to expand or contract, it just makes it easier or harder to do it.
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Old 02-03-2016, 10:15 AM   #468
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Looks like GM is doing a better job at keeping things a secret, so to speak....

We've had a ZL-1 forum for a while now....Looks like we'll need a real 1LE forum first...lol
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Old 02-03-2016, 10:27 AM   #469
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Looks like GM is doing a better job at keeping things a secret, so to speak....

We've had a ZL-1 forum for a while now....Looks like we'll need a real 1LE forum first...lol
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Old 02-03-2016, 10:40 AM   #470
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We've had a ZL-1 forum for a while now....Looks like we'll need a real 1LE forum first...lol
Was thinking the same thing. "1LE General Discussion"...
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Old 02-03-2016, 11:05 AM   #471
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Was thinking the same thing. "1LE General Discussion"...
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If you want MRC, and the 1LE doesn't have it available, just get it added to your SS as an option when you buy....The one-size fits all ride quality set-up is already available, with or without MRC...

(Believe it or not, you can track any Camaro in any stock configuration)...

If you want more track goodies, just upgrade your car with aftermarket struts, sways, tires and wheels etc., from the aftermarket (or use 1LE parts)....I don't think the 1LE will be available with MRC....It could have been an option on the 5thGen but wasn't...

As much as the 1L-E is praised, it can be mostly copied or out-done....The 1LE offers a track option straight from the factory that is very nice, and probably reasonably affordable, but it's not the only way to go. You can DIY to your heart's content for street or track with whatever configuration your SS currently has.

Give the 1LE a break...lol...It's one of many SS options...take it or leave it.

Thanks man, glad you set us straight by telling me to pay $8,000 in parts and labour for an MRC SS that won't understeer near the limit at the track....

Fortunately , neither of our opinions will mean much in a week.

Much cheaper to retrofit MRC onto a 1LE than retrofit 1LE onto an SS...
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Old 02-03-2016, 12:32 PM   #473
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Old 02-03-2016, 12:40 PM   #474
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I've said this once before, I bet my 0.50 paycheck that we see this (if its revealed as they predict) will be a Zl1, not a 1LE. just a wild guess.
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I've said this once before, I bet my 0.50 paycheck that we see this (if its revealed as they predict) will be a Zl1, not a 1LE. just a wild guess.
Again, this news regarding the 1LE reveal is directly from a GM spokesperson. It's not conjecture.
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Thanks man, glad you set us straight by telling me to pay $8,000 in parts and labour for an MRC SS that won't understeer near the limit at the track....

Fortunately , neither of our opinions will mean much in a week.

Much cheaper to retrofit MRC onto a 1LE than retrofit 1LE onto an SS...
Not possible.
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