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Old 02-02-2016, 02:54 PM   #29
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this means nothing until the base turbo-4's are out in quantity at dealership lots

the T-4 will be just a fast if not faster than the V6 if folks are will to do a simple ECU tune to turn up the wick on the boost.
why would anyone want to void their warranty for a small boost? the people who care about fuel economy and want the t4 aren't looking to risk losing their warranty. a few tuners, yes, but tuners aren't the majority.

if I were in the market for a fuel efficient t4 that could give me performance bragging rights as soon as I leave the lot, I'd go with the mustang.

Camaro has an uphill battle this year.

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Maybe a sexy ass Super Bowl spot to kick off a marketing push? They need to do something from a marketing standpoint.
here's hoping. they need the boost
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Old 02-02-2016, 02:54 PM   #30
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Maybe a sexy ass Super Bowl spot to kick off a marketing push? They need to do something from a marketing standpoint.
Stepping on the necks of dealers who are charging ADM's would be good first step.

Yes, they can't force a dealer to only sell at MSRP or below..but there can be "issues" reissuing allocations until the ADM cars sell...
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Old 02-02-2016, 02:55 PM   #31
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The T4 will be the entry level engine, but it will be able to be optioned the same as a V6 (except for the NPP), leather, HUD, discotech rave light show...everything. It will also be the lightest of the Camaro line.

Stock for stock..yeah it'll likely be slower than the V6 Camaro..it is what it is. Given the issues the T4 has had in the ATS (blown out of proportion, but still there)..I expect GM to be really, really touchy about warranty work on them, especially when dealing with mysteriously blown engines with "factory tunes".
Yep, Chevy hasn't neutured their entry level Camaro regarding options the way Ford has with their entry level V6 Mustang.
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Old 02-02-2016, 02:59 PM   #32
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Why would anyone want to void their warranty for a small boost? the people who care about fuel economy and want the t4 aren't looking to risk losing their warranty. a few tuners, yes, but tuners aren't the majority.

if I were in the market for a fuel efficient t4 that could give me performance bragging rights as soon as I leave the lot, I'd go with the mustang.

Camaro has an uphill battle this year.


I heard awhile back that Ford Racing was going to offer a tune for the Ecoboost Mustang that would not void the warranty. Has anybody heard anything about this recently?

It would be great if Chevrolet Performance would offer stage kits for the T4 Camaro (that would also not void the warranty).
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Old 02-02-2016, 05:15 PM   #33
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Camaro also needs more attractive lease deals imo, 6-700 a month for a 2ss is just way too high, you can almost get a m3 or m4 for that much loll
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Old 02-02-2016, 06:23 PM   #34
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Camaro also needs more attractive lease deals imo, 6-700 a month for a 2ss is just way too high, you can almost get a m3 or m4 for that much loll
If you can show me where to get a new M4 with no money down for near $700, I'll buy it right now. I've been quoted around $1k with 12k miles on a moderately loaded 2016 M4 which is what I would compare a 2SS to as far as options are concerned.
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Old 02-02-2016, 09:51 PM   #35
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Um anyway they cut it we are being outsold..need get the rest of the line up out asap.
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Old 02-02-2016, 10:15 PM   #36
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Have you seen one Camaro Commercial? Nobody knows there is a new car out. Have you seen Mustang commercials. Yes Lets give it a chance when GM runs commercials and cars hit the lots and show rooms. My dealer has 2, but neither are in the showroom, they have 2015 z28 and 6 vets, but no Gen6 Camaros in the showroom
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Old 02-02-2016, 10:26 PM   #37
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I'm seeing this very differently. Mark my words. Camaro will be ahead in sales by June.

Those reports speak volumes. I would bet that the GM bean counters are very pleased with that result.

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Old 02-02-2016, 10:35 PM   #38
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It will be ahead, I agree but people need to know there is a new Camaro. We know it because we are gear heads and Camaro lovers. GM needs everybody else to know and then the fireworks begin. Mustang will get sucked up in the dust of the Camaro as they will on the dragstrip and all other racing.
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Old 02-02-2016, 11:21 PM   #39
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Why would Chevy be advertising heavily now? They already can't get them out of the factory fast enough. Once production catches up, then you'll see the marketing show up. Satisfy the early adopters that have been waiting for this for a long time, and then go after the general public. It just makes sense from a money standpoint. No reason to spend the money advertising when you already can't keep up.
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Old 02-02-2016, 11:26 PM   #40
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January 2016 Camaro Sales Figures (and vs. Mustang & Challenger)

I wanna see a Camaro commercial like this one

http://youtu.be/ylYd5kh-it8
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Old 02-03-2016, 12:07 AM   #41
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I wanna see a Camaro commercial like this one

http://youtu.be/ylYd5kh-it8
Pretty cool commercial. Makes me want to buy a Dodge. Guess it did its job.
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Old 02-03-2016, 02:54 AM   #42
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Not sure if anyone addressed this or not, but remember the Camaro was out of production for 8 years which caused a lot of pent up demand. It's my opinion that it took years for that demand to work it's way through. We are now there and what will determine the future of the Camaro will be new first time Camaro buyers mostly under 35 who will hopefully become repeat buyers.
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