[SSport16]

Originally Posted by KMPrenger

I tried to see what if anything they could do, but my salesman basically defaulted to saying that he is already getting flack for selling it to me at invoice price anyways....so I don't know. I've worked with this guy in the past (had a good experience), and my brother whom is a mechanic there referred me to him b/c he seems to be an honest guy...so it is what it is.

I could threaten to walk, but I'm not going to walk away over $700 on a nearly $40,000 car.

Yeah I am working with the sales manager of the dealer that I have purchased a bunch of new GM vehicles from, been going there for 10 years, it really is the least they can do for me since I have spent a lot of $ over the years, not to mention the referrals, service visits, etc.

[daytonagary]

Originally Posted by Whis

That's still a steal, especially new. Are you sure this is not some exception to the rule?

All new, used, and cpo on autotrader start at 57k

Absolutely no exception. Found several dealers at that price. I have no military, GM or any other discounts. Made a call, 10 minutes later had it ordered, 6 weeks later I picked it up and drove it home. That simple. I love the new Camaro and will own one but if I wanted to run the price up to $50,000 then it is in Corvette pricing and Corvette wins everytime in that decision. With the Cadillac undercarriage and all the Corvette electronics and Corvette engine the Camaro is fabulous many times over. But when at the same price I get a true American sports car, 50-50 weight distribution, value that depreciations very little each year. 7 speed tranny, etc. etc. the Corvette wins every tim. Drove the Corvette around town for an hour this morning and it is a super, super, super dream car to drive and I believe the Camaro will be equally fun, but have to be in it at mid $35,000 price to be feasible financially for me. For others that prefer the Camaro over the Corvette, buy one today at whatever price you are comfortable at paying. You will get your money's worth every time you step down into the cockpit and take off with the 455 horsepower motor with TONS of torque............. To me the Corvette is the best car ever built in the history of the automobile and expect the Camaro, again to me, to be a real close second overall and first in its class.

[Whis]

Originally Posted by daytonagary

Absolutely no exception. Found several dealers at that price. I have no military, GM or any other discounts. Made a call, 10 minutes later had it ordered, 6 weeks later I picked it up and drove it home. That simple. I love the new Camaro and will own one but if I wanted to run the price up to $50,000 then it is in Corvette pricing and Corvette wins everytime in that decision. With the Cadillac undercarriage and all the Corvette electronics and Corvette engine the Camaro is fabulous many times over. But when at the same price I get a true American sports car, 50-50 weight distribution, value that depreciations very little each year. 7 speed tranny, etc. etc. the Corvette wins every tim. Drove the Corvette around town for an hour this morning and it is a super, super, super dream car to drive and I believe the Camaro will be equally fun, but have to be in it at mid $35,000 price to be feasible financially for me. For others that prefer the Camaro over the Corvette, buy one today at whatever price you are comfortable at paying. You will get your money's worth every time you step down into the cockpit and take off with the 455 horsepower motor with TONS of torque............. To me the Corvette is the best car ever built in the history of the automobile and expect the Camaro, again to me, to be a real close second overall and first in its class.

This is a great post, I am seriously reconsidering now

Thank you!

[SuperSound]

Originally Posted by daytonagary

Absolutely no exception. Found several dealers at that price. I have no military, GM or any other discounts. Made a call, 10 minutes later had it ordered, 6 weeks later I picked it up and drove it home. That simple. I love the new Camaro and will own one but if I wanted to run the price up to $50,000 then it is in Corvette pricing and Corvette wins everytime in that decision. With the Cadillac undercarriage and all the Corvette electronics and Corvette engine the Camaro is fabulous many times over. But when at the same price I get a true American sports car, 50-50 weight distribution, value that depreciations very little each year. 7 speed tranny, etc. etc. the Corvette wins every tim. Drove the Corvette around town for an hour this morning and it is a super, super, super dream car to drive and I believe the Camaro will be equally fun, but have to be in it at mid $35,000 price to be feasible financially for me. For others that prefer the Camaro over the Corvette, buy one today at whatever price you are comfortable at paying. You will get your money's worth every time you step down into the cockpit and take off with the 455 horsepower motor with TONS of torque............. To me the Corvette is the best car ever built in the history of the automobile and expect the Camaro, again to me, to be a real close second overall and first in its class.

That's fine and all but you are comparing a 1LT C7 with all options 2SS. If the 1LT C7 was fine for you then why would you want a 2SS. The C7 is still $10k over the MSRP of a 1SS manual.

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[raptor5244]

Originally Posted by newmoon

Listen I get it the performance has gotten better but the problem it's still just a SS Camaro. The problem is as a SS there is nothing unique about the car to hold the value up. In a few months there will be thousands of these sitting on dealer lots and the heavy discounting will begin. Your 50k investment will drop by 1/3 in the first year I suspect.

If you are going to drop 50k grab a GT350, or the black friday ZL1 or Z/28. The uniqueness of these vehicles will maintain the value. Look no further than the Boss mustangs which are still holding approx 85-90% of their original value. How is a 2013 SS or GT doing?

As a 2013 2SS 1LE owner I tend to agree with you. My car is loaded up with every option available in 2013 and the MSRP was right around $43k. I paid $38.5. The car is only worth $25-27k right now. A regular $50k camaro is not going to hold its value as well as a Corvette or some other special edition. That is the problem I am having with trading in my current ride for Camaro. At those prices more cross shopping takes place. Especially if you want more than just performance.

[Tr6]

Buying a fully loaded SS vs a Base vette... I'll take the camaro and I did. 2SS has more bells and whistles than a 3lt c7 or c7 zo6 and costs 30k to 50k less than. When performance is in mind instead of just having a base vette which is NOT bad, great car sure but will be getting a c7 z51. Let's say you get a 1LT Z51, without absolutely NO OPTIONS you are looking at 62k (with destination AND MANUAL auto is 1.7k more, no optional wheels, no mrc, absolutely nothing) which is still 12k MORE than a FULLY loaded. When you add MRC and black wheels, with or without PDR you are still looking at 65k. So please do elaborate how c7 is cheaper than a 2SS?

I was looking into C7 before I pulled the trigger on my 2SS. 2015 C7 was what I could've ordered at the time not 2016 so I would've been looking at spending 66k (2LT, mrc, wheels, pdr etc). And I spent 47k. So... Why should I pay 16k more for the C7 again? I am completely comparing NEW TO NEW. Not NEW to USED. Even used you are 53k MINIMUM and it's a 2 year old car with at least 10k miles on it. Which is still MORE than what I paid for it and still get MORE goodies than a fully loaded 3LT C7 z51 AND a 3lt c6 zo6 (minus LT4 of course).

[LesserO2Evils]

Originally Posted by Zack46

So, when your dealership gets the invoice, does that mean they know when the car will arrive, in terms of the ETA of the vehicle?..

I Second this question??? Anyone?

[daytonagary]

Originally Posted by SuperSound

That's fine and all but you are comparing a 1LT C7 with all options 2SS. If the 1LT C7 was fine for you then why would you want a 2SS. The C7 is still $10k over the MSRP of a 1SS manual.

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I wouldn't want a 2SS since it has no options above the 1SS I want except for leather seats and I can get the upholstery changed to leather for less than $1000 and the $35,000 Camaro is what I will order as soon as the new spoilers become available. The NPP exhaust, heads up display, colored upholstery, Z51 package etc. etc. had no interest to me. My opinion is that a 1LT Corvette which is a fully featured car as it comes at a $50,000 price tag is a better buy compared to a 2SS Camaro with a $50,000 price tag. Both cars are amazing performers in 1SS and 1 LT configuration. The NPP exhaust, 6 piston calipers, heads up display, etc. etc. etc. are just gingerbread I would never spend any money on because they don't increase the fun of driving the car at all since it already handles, accelerates, stops, etc. etc. fantastically.

[daytonagary]

Originally Posted by Tr6

Buying a fully loaded SS vs a Base vette... I'll take the camaro and I did. 2SS has more bells and whistles than a 3lt c7 or c7 zo6 and costs 30k to 50k less than. When performance is in mind instead of just having a base vette which is NOT bad, great car sure but will be getting a c7 z51. Let's say you get a 1LT Z51, without absolutely NO OPTIONS you are looking at 62k (with destination AND MANUAL auto is 1.7k more, no optional wheels, no mrc, absolutely nothing) which is still 12k MORE than a FULLY loaded. When you add MRC and black wheels, with or without PDR you are still looking at 65k. So please do elaborate how c7 is cheaper than a 2SS?

I was looking into C7 before I pulled the trigger on my 2SS. 2015 C7 was what I could've ordered at the time not 2016 so I would've been looking at spending 66k (2LT, mrc, wheels, pdr etc). And I spent 47k. So... Why should I pay 16k more for the C7 again? I am completely comparing NEW TO NEW. Not NEW to USED. Even used you are 53k MINIMUM and it's a 2 year old car with at least 10k miles on it. Which is still MORE than what I paid for it and still get MORE goodies than a fully loaded 3LT C7 z51 AND a 3lt c6 zo6 (minus LT4 of course).

I would never buy the Z51 package. total waste of money for a street car. I can drive my Corvette just as hard on the street without the Z51 package. You can't get the benefit out of any of Z51 features unless you are on the race track tracking the car. And the 2SS does not have any more bells and whistles than the Corvette. For me, base Corvette vs a Camaro with all the gingerbread, the Corvette wins everytime...Because the base Corvette is not like the old days when you only got a stripped down version for a base car, it has every electronic, mechanical, etc. etc. feature you need. Again, for a street car since the base Corvette is so super as it comes, on the street the dry sump oiling, extra pucks in brakes, bigger tires are all useless to get to point A to point B more enjoyably than the standard corvette. When you had drum brakes upgraded to disk brakes, 300 horsepower upgraded to 435 horsepower, etc. like in the mid 60 Corvettes it was worth the extra to get upgraded vette. Not like that anymore. Same electronic dash features, brakes stop you on a dime, can't safely go around any corner on the street needing more tire on it than standard Corvette.

[Tath34ever]

Originally Posted by LesserO2Evils

I Second this question??? Anyone?

I don't think so, I asked my dealer to send me a screen shot of the event history this morning and all they said was its just awaiting a final go to be put on a rail. Btw I got my invoice about 3 days ago.

[mcintyre1969]

My dealer got my invoice at the beginning of the week. Just got my ETA this afternoon. According to the people on this site, an ETA means it IS in transit.

[raptor5244]

Originally Posted by daytonagary

I wouldn't want a 2SS since it has no options above the 1SS I want except for leather seats and I can get the upholstery changed to leather for less than $1000 and the $35,000 Camaro is what I will order as soon as the new spoilers become available. The NPP exhaust, heads up display, colored upholstery, Z51 package etc. etc. had no interest to me. My opinion is that a 1LT Corvette which is a fully featured car as it comes at a $50,000 price tag is a better buy compared to a 2SS Camaro with a $50,000 price tag. Both cars are amazing performers in 1SS and 1 LT configuration. The NPP exhaust, 6 piston calipers, heads up display, etc. etc. etc. are just gingerbread I would never spend any money on because they don't increase the fun of driving the car at all since it already handles, accelerates, stops, etc. etc. fantastically.

Excellent points. I will also add that the performance limits are so high on these cars even in base trim that you can't fully realize the benefit in typical street driving. The best bang for the buck is a 1SS Camaro with NPP as the only option and wait til end of year and rebates kick in and buy the sucker for under $35k.

[Subperfect]

Originally Posted by Zack46

So, when your dealership gets the invoice, does that mean they know when the car will arrive, in terms of the ETA of the vehicle?

I think it's time I pay a visit to my dealership.....................

ETA yes but actual date no....Im a 10/19er and got my invoice about 2 weeks ago and ETA from the dealer which was 11/16 but still no car le sigh....

[andrec10]

Originally Posted by daytonagary

Absolutely no exception. Found several dealers at that price. I have no military, GM or any other discounts. Made a call, 10 minutes later had it ordered, 6 weeks later I picked it up and drove it home. That simple. I love the new Camaro and will own one but if I wanted to run the price up to $50,000 then it is in Corvette pricing and Corvette wins everytime in that decision. With the Cadillac undercarriage and all the Corvette electronics and Corvette engine the Camaro is fabulous many times over. But when at the same price I get a true American sports car, 50-50 weight distribution, value that depreciations very little each year. 7 speed tranny, etc. etc. the Corvette wins every tim. Drove the Corvette around town for an hour this morning and it is a super, super, super dream car to drive and I believe the Camaro will be equally fun, but have to be in it at mid $35,000 price to be feasible financially for me. For others that prefer the Camaro over the Corvette, buy one today at whatever price you are comfortable at paying. You will get your money's worth every time you step down into the cockpit and take off with the 455 horsepower motor with TONS of torque............. To me the Corvette is the best car ever built in the history of the automobile and expect the Camaro, again to me, to be a real close second overall and first in its class.

Unless you can't get comfortable in it! I tried...trust me!