[Tyler360]

Selfish much?

[FINALLYSATISFIED]

Thank you, Camaro_Corvette!

[FINALLYSATISFIED]

Originally Posted by kbui

OP! Is it OK for me to swap the ZL1 bumper but have better looking ground effects, hood and wheels...

Love your wheels, however not a fan of your hood, or GM GFX with the ZL1 front end. ZL1 front end flows with the ZL1 rockers and diffuser that's why I opted for it and won't be doing any major body modifications. Hood reminds me of every import out there including the EVOs and RX-8's I see unfortunately on base. I do love the color choice you picked though. That's why your driving that and I'm driving what I drive. Overall looks clean and very sharp. Looks better than most on the forum.

[motorhead]

Originally Posted by kbui

OP! Is it OK for me to swap the ZL1 bumper but have better looking ground effects, hood and wheels...

That looks Amazing! I can't wait to get my heritage grill installed in my ZL1. It makes all Camaros look so much better.

[Camaro_Corvette]

No problem, but lets try to keep Camaro5 levels of respect in here.

[kbui]

Originally Posted by FINALLYSATISFIED

Love your wheels, however not a fan of your hood, or GM GFX with the ZL1 front end. ZL1 front end flows with the ZL1 rockers and diffuser that's why I opted for it and won't be doing any major body modifications. Hood reminds me of every import out there including the EVOs and RX-8's I see unfortunately on base. I do love the color choice you picked though. That's why your driving that and I'm driving what I drive.

To each his own! I was thinking about the ZL1 hood, but didn't think it was doing enough heat extraction being too far forward. This hood is so much better than the ZL1 hood for the summer heat down here in Texas. BTW, the hood is very similar to the "ricer Viper" hood and friend of mine had on his Viper...

[Angrybird 12]

Originally Posted by kbui

To each his own! I was thinking about the ZL1 hood, but didn't think it was doing enough heat extraction being too far forward. This hood is so much better than the ZL1 hood for the summer heat down here in Texas. BTW, the hood is very similar to the "ricer Viper" hood and friend of mine had on his Viper...

The ZL1 hood is primarily designed for under hood pressure relief at high speeds to increase downforce and reduce front end lift, the heat extraction is a side benefit.

[FINALLYSATISFIED]

Originally Posted by kbui

To each his own! I was thinking about the ZL1 hood, but didn't think it was doing enough heat extraction being too far forward. This hood is so much better than the ZL1 hood for the summer heat down here in Texas. BTW, the hood is very similar to the "ricer Viper" hood and friend of mine had on his Viper...

Makes sense, don't get me wrong I loved what you done. You took on a less is more approach which I like and nothing is overdone. Simplicity as its finest. The wheels are sexy, the hockey stripe and the white liner in the rims sets it off.
I know exactly what Viper hood your referring to, a buddy of mine has it on his, lol.

[Liam]

Originally Posted by Angrybird 12

No ZL1 badges man..
This pic is for you since you like my car so much.



No lol

Hey man! You take those ZL1LT badges off there right NOW! ...oh wait, never mind.

[AKA-22]

Originally Posted by FINALLYSATISFIED

That's the best you could come up with?

well its just that simple if you keep on replying i will come up with a more complicated definition. i did expect such a reply .... it is what it is..

[Norm Peterson]

Originally Posted by kbui

To each his own! I was thinking about the ZL1 hood, but didn't think it was doing enough heat extraction being too far forward. This hood is so much better than the ZL1 hood for the summer heat down here in Texas. BTW, the hood is very similar to the "ricer Viper" hood and friend of mine had on his Viper...

Technically, heat extraction is better served with the opening further forward from the base of the windshield than you might think. What you want for heat extraction is the vent opening to be in an area of low pressure. Base of windshield is high pressure, exactly what you DON'T want and why it's a good place for things like HVAC fresh air intake (and cowl induction on carbureted cars). Somewhere ahead of that you have a negative pressure region.


Which sort of brings me back to the topic of whether I'd use ZL1 parts on a non-ZL1 Camaro.

If I was after the same functional reason as GM had for their existence in the first place, absolutely. I'd have the benefit of OE engineering and durability testing and a pretty good guarantee of fit.

I would absolutely not do it for appearance.


Norm

[kbui]

Originally Posted by Norm Peterson

Technically, heat extraction is better served with the opening further forward from the base of the windshield than you might think. What you want for heat extraction is the vent opening to be in an area of low pressure. Base of windshield is high pressure, exactly what you DON'T want and why it's a good place for things like HVAC fresh air intake (and cowl induction on carbureted cars). Somewhere ahead of that you have a negative pressure region.


Which sort of brings me back to the topic of whether I'd use ZL1 parts on a non-ZL1 Camaro.

If I was after the same functional reason as GM had for their existence in the first place, absolutely. I'd have the benefit of OE engineering and durability testing and a pretty good guarantee of fit.

I would absolutely not do it for appearance.


Norm

I do agree with the high pressure region at the base of the windshield, but with the scoop too forward like the ZL1's, you are really doing a lot more for smooth flow path to reduce the pressure under the hood for aerodynamic down force purposes and heat extraction is secondary. The water tray on the ZL1 effectively reduce most of the heat extraction capability anyway. If someone provide a CAD file, I might run my own CFD runs just for fun...

[POS Dakota]

WTF???

A zl1 is a joke. Most SS models with boost or a good n/a build kick their asses.
Why would anyone care about cloning a zl1 is my question.

a zl1 is basically a waste of a supercharger.

[Norm Peterson]

Originally Posted by kbui

I do agree with the high pressure region at the base of the windshield, but with the scoop too forward like the ZL1's, you are really doing a lot more for smooth flow path to reduce the pressure under the hood for aerodynamic down force purposes and heat extraction is secondary. The water tray on the ZL1 effectively reduce most of the heat extraction capability anyway. If someone provide a CAD file, I might run my own CFD runs just for fun...

Seems to me whether the reason is for heat extraction or downforce/avoidance of lift you still want the vent to exit into low pressure. I may never drive at 150+ mph, but if I ever do I'll want any front lift at least minimized, which comes right back to the same choice of hood.


Norm