[Brokinarrow]

Originally Posted by greenrail

I am sure the stats will indicate that because of sheer numbers pointing at young people. But, being an old fart, I see way too many dipsh*ts out there driving like morons. Sitting in the left lane much slower than the flow of traffic. Turning like their car has a worse case of arthritis than their knees. Driving and not paying attention to anything but what they may or may not see ahead. and the list goes on and on.

Sorry about my Obvious Venting here!!

I have been behind way too many of those drivers also.

And don't get me started about morons on the phone running up my baskside with bulging eyeballs because they aren't paying attention. Espcially when I am moving quit nicely at the appropriate speed of the flow of traffic.

Yeah, it's all over the map in terms of inattentive drivers and incompetent drivers.

argh i know exactly what you mean!!

[greenrail]

Originally Posted by Brokinarrow

argh i know exactly what you mean!!

This really burns inside my belly (as massive as it is)!!!!!!

[Tim Adams]

Read this article here, http://www.autoweek.com/files/tdss/quotes.html

When teens are given the proper instruction, they are much less likely to be stupid.

[Brokinarrow]

Originally Posted by Tim Adams

Read this article here, http://www.autoweek.com/files/tdss/quotes.html

When teens are given the proper instruction, they are much less likely to be stupid.

good info

[SSOOCH]

Street Racing is God's way of weeding out stupid people. Period. I was eighteen in 1994 when I bought my 1994 Z/28 (yes I bought it, I worked my ass off since the 9th grade to have enough money for it). I never even got a speeding ticket in it. I guess what I'm trying to say is, if these two wouldn't have died this way, they would have died another way down the road by doing something stupid. You can give all the driving tests and driving courses you want. Stupid people are stupid people. There is no changing that!

[BigRigMike]

Originally Posted by SSOOCH

Street Racing is God's way of weeding out stupid people. Period. I was eighteen in 1994 when I bought my 1994 Z/28 (yes I bought it, I worked my ass off since the 9th grade to have enough money for it). I never even got a speeding ticket in it. I guess what I'm trying to say is, if these two wouldn't have died this way, they would have died another way down the road by doing something stupid. You can give all the driving tests and driving courses you want. Stupid people are stupid people. There is no changing that!

But don't forget that their stupidity but two innocent people in the hospital, one in serious condition.

[Camaro_Corvette]

Originally Posted by Tim Adams

Read this article here, http://www.autoweek.com/files/tdss/quotes.html

When teens are given the proper instruction, they are much less likely to be stupid.

A very big

[greenrail]

Originally Posted by BigRigMike

But don't forget that their stupidity but two innocent people in the hospital, one in serious condition.

And much like any incident like this, there is a huge risk to those who are not even involved.

That is what really pushes my buttons when these people arbitrarily, put me and my family (or anyone else for that matter) at risk from asinine behavior!

Yeah it thins the herd, but not at an acceptable price.

[CanadianRocky]

By the time most people get behind the wheel, they have watched others (parents, family, friends) drive for 16 years.

Children learn a significant amount from example.

If a person exhibits poor driving, road rage, racing and eating while you are driving, how can it be reasonable to expect the children in the back watching this will be any different?

One thing ALL drivers have in common is that they have passed a minimum standard road test.

Raising the age of driving will have exactly the same effect as raising the minimum age of drinking. Nothing.

We need to start driver education at school at age 10, have them in the driver seat with supervision no later than 16 and the tests must be something that is hard to pass.

But until the parents start to model better driving when they are behind the wheel, we are spitting in the wind.

[Emher]

That's the my exit when I was in Atlanta, that has to be just the other side of the trees from my motel. My ex lived on LaVista Rd. I wonder if that's the same guy she was friends with...

The message in any case is simple: keep it on the track.

[chrisgalles]

I'm a firm believer in that acts like these occur b/c parents are being parents now-a-days.

[mbauer14085RS/SS2010]

this is so sad.

[SSRider]

Originally Posted by Tim Adams

What a load of BS. If they are properly trained in high performance driving, they can handle anything, at 16 even. Look at Joey Logano, he just turned 19? Tommie Johnson Jr. was drag racing in Iowa, (on the track), before he was 16. Graham Rahal is barely over 20. You do not need to get into your mid 20's. One of the top, top, drivers in F1 is Sebastian Vettel, he is only 21. F1 cars are hands down the most difficult to drive cars on the planet.

The real problem is drivers ed. Every kid should be required to attend a high performance driving school before getting a license. But that costs a ton of money, so who is going to pay for it????

I could really go off here but I will tone it down (on the subject matter not the person posting).

Your are missing the point (no offense, I respect your opinion) but the Doc is correct. The synaptic connections are not fully hooked up to the prefrontal cortex until about age 21 or so . I am not a Doc but I learned this many years ago at a parenting class that I and my wife attended. This does not mean that they (young people) are not capable of learning highly skilled tasks such as competative driving or any other sport for that matter. However their ability to know their limits, make judgements and asses risks are not that of a fully developed adult brain especially under stressful conditions or when highly aroused. I have two sons ages 23 and 17 i have observed this in a loving manner with both. When my oldest was a teenager, he never drove my 500hp Vette (alone) for that reason and niether will my youngest drive my SS alone. Drivers Ed is not the answer (at least not in its current form), this has been tried for many years with little or no improvement in teenage drivers. I know the stats here because I work for a large auto insurance company. Students with better grades are typically more responsible drivers. But as a parent you can't beat the shit out of your kids until they get good grades. This sort of defeats the purpose and goes against being a role model for your kids. BTW one other important factoid that comes to mind is the impact of alcohol consumption on the imature brain.....let's just say that it's scary I was unable to show enough evidence to my oldest son to impact a decision to say no to boose, he started drinking around age 16. However I stopped drinking alcohol three years ago and this plus education has my youngest son (17 years) alcohol, smoke and drug free, so far. Parents can have a significant impact on their children by repeatedly demonstating the type of behaviors that are responsible. It frustrates me when our children die needlesly. I should zip my thoughts here

[2010SLVRBULIT]

Stupid drivers do stupid things.