[puppykat33]

Does anyone have any experience with the Michelin Pilot Sport All Season 4 ZP on their Z..? Im looking for something with better cold and wet traction than the PS4S
Thanks all

[Avarela99]

I have them on mine all OE sizes, they're great for all 4 seasons. The compound is good in warm and cold seasons and they are much better than the OE goodyears all around. I would get the summers next go around since I don't drive it much in winter at all.

[puppykat33]

thanks bud so the cold and wet traction is decent

[U4EA]

My wife has had them on her 2023 A10 ZL1 for 3 years and 8500 miles daily driver, only complains they are hard as a rock in the winter here in Texas. Most run flats are the same in that regard, let's face it that the grunt these cars have it's hard to keep anything under them. Are better in rain for displacing water, less hydroplaning.

[arpad_m]

I'm not a fan of runflat (zero pressure) tires for the reasons described above. Michelin offers a normal all-season variant, and don't sleep on the cheaper yet excellent Continental DWS06 Plus either.

[puppykat33]

Originally Posted by U4EA

My wife has had them on her 2023 A10 ZL1 for 3 years and 8500 miles daily driver, only complains they are hard as a rock in the winter here in Texas. Most run flats are the same in that regard, let's face it that the grunt these cars have it's hard to keep anything under them. Are better in rain for displacing water, less hydroplaning.

Thanks
That is what im looking for is better wet weather/cool temp traction. Im not really concerned too much about the ride.

[puppykat33]

Originally Posted by arpad_m

I'm not a fan of runflat (zero pressure) tires for the reasons described above. Michelin offers a normal all-season variant, and don't sleep on the cheaper yet excellent Continental DWS06 Plus either.

Thanks
I will check the continentals out. Have you run them?
These PS4S are too wild and unpredictable in the rain

[NYTMARE23]

Originally Posted by arpad_m

I'm not a fan of runflat (zero pressure) tires for the reasons described above. Michelin offers a normal all-season variant, and don't sleep on the cheaper yet excellent Continental DWS06 Plus either.

On the contrary, I LOVE my Supercar 3's......but I also ONLY drive with temps above 60 and never in any cold, damp, wet, snowy or icy conditions, so that's the only reasons they DO work for me.

[puppykat33]

Originally Posted by NYTMARE23

On the contrary, I LOVE my Supercar 3's......but I also ONLY drive with temps above 60 and never in any cold, damp, wet, snowy or icy conditions, so that's the only reasons they DO work for me.

Glad you do. I hope you never get caught in a pop up rain shower as i did when i first got my Z.
I immediately got rid of them for the PS4S which in hind sight as far as rain are not much better.

[NYTMARE23]

Originally Posted by puppykat33

Glad you do. I hope you never get caught in a pop up rain shower as i did when i first got my Z.
I immediately got rid of them for the PS4S which in hind sight as far as rain are not much better.

I don't take it out unless I know for 100% fact there is ZERO chance of sprinkles or rain. It's worked for me so far in the past 3 1/2 years I've had it I am suprised to hear from you though that the PS4S's aren't much better....that's interesting

[arpad_m]

Originally Posted by NYTMARE23

On the contrary, I LOVE my Supercar 3's......but I also ONLY drive with temps above 60 and never in any cold, damp, wet, snowy or icy conditions, so that's the only reasons they DO work for me.

Your tires aren't runflat. The SS came with Goodyear Asymmetric F1 runflat tires, a completely different and much inferior model, your ZL1 came with standard (non-runflat) Goodyear Supercar3's, that's why you aren't complaining

[arpad_m]

Originally Posted by puppykat33

Thanks
I will check the continentals out. Have you run them?
These PS4S are too wild and unpredictable in the rain

Originally Posted by puppykat33

Glad you do. I hope you never get caught in a pop up rain shower as i did when i first got my Z.
I immediately got rid of them for the PS4S which in hind sight as far as rain are not much better.

I've been running the PS4S in various sizes since late 2019, got into several hard downpours, drove it in 32-34° temps and wet roads over the years, never had an issue. I obviously don't try to race on a highway with rain pouring like a wet inferno, and the car doesn't even flinch even in deep puddles.

What makes you say these tires are unpredictable?

[NYTMARE23]

Originally Posted by arpad_m

Your tires aren't runflat. The SS came with Goodyear Asymmetric F1 runflat tires, a completely different and much inferior model, your ZL1 came with standard (non-runflat) Goodyear Supercar3's, that's why you aren't complaining

OHH...HAHA...well, shows you just how much I know about tires!!!...which is basically little to nothing....no wonder I don't find them to be a "bad" tire I guess..

Thanks for the info between the difference!. Had no idea.

[ZLRob]

Originally Posted by arpad_m

I've been running the PS4S in various sizes since late 2019, got into several hard downpours, drove it in 32-34° temps and wet roads over the years, never had an issue. I obviously don't try to race on a highway with rain pouring like a wet inferno, and the car doesn't even flinch even in deep puddles.

What makes you say these tires are unpredictable?

I run PS4's as well. They have proven pretty darn reliable in the rain. The only time they ever felt sketchy was this season in. Amassive downpour where you couldn't see 100 feet in front of you. Everyone was moving slowly though so that just goes to show how bad it was.. outside of that single instance, they are solid and hold good power when it's warm out. Under 60 degrees out and any power over mostly factory levels, be careful when trying to have some fun because they can let go at higher RPM's.