[Bumbleboy92]

Here’s an extra scare for the tuned guys

https://www.facebook.com/share/v/16M...ibextid=wwXIfr

(Technically not the same but for the trucks/SUVs)

[FlukeSS]

Originally Posted by Bumbleboy92

Here’s an extra scare for the tuned guys

https://www.facebook.com/share/v/16M...ibextid=wwXIfr

(Technically not the same but for the trucks/SUVs)

And now everyone understands why I'm so adamant about GM fixing shit the right way which does NOT involve retuning the ECM and TCM.

And what that video doesn't say is what happens to modified vehicles that do not use the correct tune? Can you go back to stock values with an aftermarket cam, AFR, spark timing, non stock spark plug gaps, fuel tables, E85 tune while having E85 in a car that wasn't flexfuel from the factory?

!8ball

My sources say no.

You could very well blow up your engine.... So, ya who is responsible?

[arpad_m]

GM won't even let its own engineers make the necessary part design changes, not sure if being adamant that they "fix shit the right way" will help (sigh).

[wang970305]

I was planning to unlock and tune my A10 TCM. Now that this recall has come out, how vulnerable is this control valve? I know GM updates the TCM software and adjusts some pressure. Not sure what the average miles that it would fail? i guess i might wait a bit longer before unlocking my TCM

[FlukeSS]

Originally Posted by wang970305

I was planning to unlock and tune my A10 TCM. Now that this recall has come out, how vulnerable is this control valve? I know GM updates the TCM software and adjusts some pressure. Not sure what the average miles that it would fail? i guess i might wait a bit longer before unlocking my TCM

Mileage is unpredictable. The TCM update is a crock of shit.

It can happen on a new car with 3000 miles or an old car with 120,000 miles.

And when they fix it, they use the same defective part as a replacement to push people out of warranty.

And if the transmission is damaged because of it... YOU have to pay for it, they will not.

The only fix so far is NextGen DriveTrain's valve body upgrade kit and regular trans maintenance. Which YOU get to pay for out of pocket, and thus void your warranty since it is an aftermarket part, and fix.


Just ask GM how much they care about public safety. Or would you like to hear the recording of them expressing how they take public safety very seriously.

[jreagle56]

I am done with GM. THe solution outlined in the recall notice is B.S. It doesn't fix the problem or address the accelerated wear that is most likely taking place.
GM not taking full responsibility for the possibility of a catastrophic failure and replacing the faulty part with a new redesigned superior part ASAP is bad customer service, bad business, and just lame in my opinion.

I traded my 2022 SS Camaro A10 for an M2 6 spd manual.
Good Bye GM!

[Chutzpah]

Originally Posted by jreagle56

I am done with GM. THe solution outlined in the recall notice is B.S. It doesn't fix the problem or address the accelerated wear that is most likely taking place.
GM not taking full responsibility for the possibility of a catastrophic failure and replacing the faulty part with a new redesigned superior part ASAP is bad customer service, bad business, and just lame in my opinion.

I traded my 2022 SS Camaro A10 for an M2 6 spd manual.
Good Bye GM!

Now that’s decisive response… much respect

[FlukeSS]

Thought about picking up a Jaguar F-Type R same difference I suspect except they can come with AWD.

[radz28]

I'm sorry for my confusion.

Has anyone with tuned ECM and TCM gotten the update and can verify we can reflash both? I am forced to get the "recall" done for registration, so I'm wondering if they LOCK the ECM and TCM after their flash? That would piss me off to have to send my TCM back to HPTuners to have them re-unlock it, and have to pay for all the credits for both modules to retune...

[FlukeSS]

Originally Posted by radz28

I'm sorry for my confusion.

Has anyone with tuned ECM and TCM gotten the update and can verify we can reflash both? I am forced to get the "recall" done for registration, so I'm wondering if they LOCK the ECM and TCM after their flash? That would piss me off to have to send my TCM back to HPTuners to have them re-unlock it, and have to pay for all the credits for both modules to retune...

From what I gather of the information in this thread, they don't mess with the ECM, specifically TCM.

Some one farther up I think said they had it done that initially chevy didn't want to do it because they thought the TCM was tuned, but in that person's case it wasn't, just the ECM was tuned. So Chevy said they would do the update on the TCM.

I would assume that to mean they may not lock it, but it will change the TCM tuning. But I can't promise that assumption.

I don't want the update for 2 reasons

1. My TCM is tuned and I like it.
2. The TCM update is a crock of shit based on all the stories and testimonials of how these Trans are STILL locking up after the fact.

Pick your poison.

3rd option, replace the valvebody with Next Gen Valve Body upgrade kit and tell GM to shove it up their ass. That said not sure what that does for your registration issue. Not sure if they will let it slide knowing you have actually fixed the recall issue outright and no longer need the recall done.

If you want more detailed information about what the real cause of the issue is.... Start page hopping back 1 page at a time and check for some of the youtube videos I posted, which all explain what causes the issue related to the valve body.

[radz28]

Originally Posted by FlukeSS

From what I gather of the information in this thread, they don't mess with the ECM, specifically TCM.

Some one farther up I think said they had it done that initially chevy didn't want to do it because they thought the TCM was tuned, but in that person's case it wasn't, just the ECM was tuned. So Chevy said they would do the update on the TCM.

I would assume that to mean they may not lock it, but it will change the TCM tuning. But I can't promise that assumption.

I don't want the update for 2 reasons

1. My TCM is tuned and I like it.
2. The TCM update is a crock of shit based on all the stories and testimonials of how these Trans are STILL locking up after the fact.

Pick your poison.

3rd option, replace the valvebody with Next Gen Valve Body upgrade kit and tell GM to shove it up their ass.

I have to do it for my registration process. It's BS.

If they don't lock it, no bigge, as I'll just reflash as soon as I get it from the service department. I'm just worried about them locking it.

BUT - I already have the full valve kit from Next Gen waiting to be installed, so I'm good there. I was just wondering about the locking it.

[FlukeSS]

Originally Posted by radz28

I have to do it for my registration process. It's BS.

If they don't lock it, no bigge, as I'll just reflash as soon as I get it from the service department. I'm just worried about them locking it.

BUT - I already have the full valve kit from Next Gen waiting to be installed, so I'm good there. I was just wondering about the locking it.

Sadly I'm not to sure, I don't see why they would, but they may outright refuse to do it because its tuned.

I was already refused by GM and Chevy. Be curious to know if they will do it still and what happens.

[cdb95z28]

Have any Camaros had a lockup?

I'm on the lockup page on FB and there's plenty of trucks that have had the lockup but I haven't heard of any Camaros. I just had my '22 SS 1LE TCM update performed.

[wang970305]

Originally Posted by radz28

I have to do it for my registration process. It's BS.

If they don't lock it, no bigge, as I'll just reflash as soon as I get it from the service department. I'm just worried about them locking it.

BUT - I already have the full valve kit from Next Gen waiting to be installed, so I'm good there. I was just wondering about the locking it.

GPI made a post about this, the new TCM adjusted some shifting pressure or whatever. they wont lock it, you would just need to get it retuned