[Saberscar223]

Has anyone who’s gotten the Update tested if you can still make a new key via the OBD2 port? Im hoping this made that process impossible for random thieves on the street.

[TurboC3]

No good news, yet. Going to dig further on Monday. Need to order a new key, to do more testing. FYI, I sub car key programming out. My guy was afraid to remove all keys, before we KNOW he can program a new one. But the PIN code came right up, so he thinks there will be no issue, making a key w/ his $1700 programmer. One thing I did notice with the update, the permissions menu seems to be gone in settings.

[Saberscar223]

Ooh okay thats not as encouraging as I’d hoped haha hopefully he still wouldn’t be able to. Whats the permissions menu being gone entail?

[DeuceCam]

See post 117 on the other thread regarding the update in this forum. GM claims certified locksmiths using approved tools should still have access.

[arpad_m]

Originally Posted by TurboC3

My guy was afraid to remove all keys, before we KNOW he can program a new one.

I never understood that arbitrary stipulation in GM's key programming logic. Why do I have to delete all perfectly working fobs before I try to program a new one?

The only risk this opens up is me, the legit owner unable to complete key programming after clearing all fobs, left with nothing working and a long tow or a mechanic house call... Deleting existing fobs should be optional, and deleting "all but the one currently in the car" should also be supported.

[Saberscar223]

Also is this a tool that would be easy access? Could just anyone get the same tool as him?

[TurboC3]

Originally Posted by Saberscar223

Also is this a tool that would be easy access? Could just anyone get the same tool as him?

Yes unfortunately, it is just a good scan tool w/key programming. So maybe the $300 amazon scan tools don't do it now? But the $2000 tools do? Not much of a security update, if so. I will let y'all know when I receive a key and dig deeper.



As far as the permissions tab, there used to be a menu in settings that allowed apps to receive info from the car. I can't seem to find it anymore?

[TurboC3]

After the update...Bad news. 12min and a programmer= new key. It pulled the pin in 2min then 10min to program...SAD.

[2SS Capt]

Originally Posted by TurboC3

After the update...Bad news. 12min and a programmer= new key. It pulled the pin in 2min then 10min to program...SAD.

Well, it's better than 30 seconds, I guess... Is yours a super expensive programmer or is it one of the $400 ones on eBay?

[Deacon Blues]

Originally Posted by TurboC3

After the update...Bad news. 12min and a programmer= new key. It pulled the pin in 2min then 10min to program...SAD.

Bummer, but thank you for checking.


I suppose if it takes longer, even if inevitable, it might be enough of a deterrent or afford time for intercepting thieves?

[TurboC3]

We used the expensive programmer. In hindsight we should have: 1-Locked the car w/window down 2-Made the key from outside the car, without opening/unlocking the door 3-Tried the "cheap" programmer first. So now, to do that, gotta buy another key. You can only program keys once. If anyone knows a better way we can test, lemme know.

[The Maverick]

Originally Posted by TurboC3

We used the expensive programmer. In hindsight we should have: 1-Locked the car w/window down 2-Made the key from outside the car, without opening/unlocking the door 3-Tried the "cheap" programmer first.

Thanks for your efforts! I think that approach might tell us if the common attack vector has been affected in a meaningful way.