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Old 01-11-2025, 08:49 AM   #29
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[QUOTE=JANNETTYRACING;11467037]Typically Dynojet reads within 10% of My superflow and usually slightly higher than my superflow.

10 speed cars should be tested in 7th gear which is 1:1

As you gear down, 6th will make less power, around 10-15 RWHP

5th will make even less power 20-25 RWHP.


These pulls were in 5th gear, so should be around the 620 rwhp range in 7th gear. I haven't seen any 10 speed put down no where near 670 rwhp from all the online threads and YouTube Dyno videos with these mods I've seen and read. They are typically in the 590 to mid 600's which is where I'm at pretty much at 595rwhp in 5th gear, so 25 rwhp in 7th would be 620rwhp. I haven't really seen any the high 600s without a camshaft upgrade or using a bigger lower pulley or smaller upper pulley to increase boost. I'm still at less than 10 psi boost, 9.89 psi at the most.

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Old 01-11-2025, 09:01 AM   #30
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Typically Dynojet reads within 10% of My superflow and usually slightly higher than my superflow.

10 speed cars should be tested in 7th gear which is 1:1

As you gear down, 6th will make less power, around 10-15 RWHP

5th will make even less power 20-25 RWHP.


These pulls were in 5th gear, so should be around the 620 rwhp range in 7th gear. I haven't seen any 10 speed put down no where near 670 rwhp from all the online threads and YouTube Dyno videos with these mods I've seen and read. They are typically in the 590 to mid 600's which is where I'm at pretty much at 595rwhp in 5th gear, so 25 rwhp in 7th would be 620rwhp. I haven't really seen any the high 600s without a camshaft upgrade.
I have at least 9 videos of this package on the dyno making 665-672 RWHP on E60, eihter in 4th on manual or 7th on auto, on my facebook page Jannettyracing.

I developed this package back in 2018 on my personal ZL1.

I sell and tune this package all over the world with similar results.

https://jannettyracing.com/products/...-kit-gen-6-zl1

The video is linked on this page.

Enjoy!

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Old 01-11-2025, 09:13 AM   #31
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Typically Dynojet reads within 10% of My superflow and usually slightly higher than my superflow.

10 speed cars should be tested in 7th gear which is 1:1

As you gear down, 6th will make less power, around 10-15 RWHP

5th will make even less power 20-25 RWHP.

I have tested this many times.

My 125 package consists of Rotofab, 95 mm TB, 1 7/8 Long tubes with cats, Flex fuel sensor plugs and wires along with a JMS fuel system voltage booster.

We can run E60 at .84 Lambda and maintain commanded low side pressure, high side pressure and not exceed about 5.8 ms injector opening time.

This combination puts down 670 RWTQ 670 RWHP on E60 consistently across many many cars.

So in my opinion you have some work to do.

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I have at least 9 videos of this package on the dyno making 665-672 RWHP on E60, eihter in 4th on manual or 7th on auto, on my facebook page Jannettyracing.

I developed this package back in 2018 on my personal ZL1.

I sell and tune this package all over the world with similar results.

https://jannettyracing.com/products/...-kit-gen-6-zl1

The video is linked on this page.

Enjoy!

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I would be at 620 or so in 7th gear, I'm still using the stock 87mm throttle body and I don't have the big gulp roto fab, just the standard roto fab intake. I would surmise that the big gulp and the 95mm TB are adding to the power increase on you packages. I would be probably at 640 to 650 with bigger throttle body and the bigger intake. So it's not that far off from yours. Plus you factor in the environment that the car was Dynod in etc... All that matters.
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Old 01-11-2025, 09:18 AM   #32
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I would be at 620 or so in 7th gear, I'm still using the stock 87mm throttle body and I don't have the big gulp roto fab, just the standard roto fab intake. I would surmise that the big gulp and the 95mm TB are adding to the power increase on you packages. I would be probably at 640 to 650 with bigger throttle body and the bigger intake. So it's not that far off from yours. Plus you factor in the environment that the car was Dynod in etc... All that matters.
You posted a good question, I am providing good solid reliable data.

All Dynos Correct back to a standard day so the environmental conditions are a moot point and will not affect the results printed on the dyno sheet.

Our standard Flex fuel upgrade only has made 650 RWHP without Headers on E85.

You are pretty far off, that is what you asked all I am doing is providing an answer.

Do with it what you please.

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Old 01-11-2025, 09:19 AM   #33
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I have at least 9 videos of this package on the dyno making 665-672 RWHP on E60, eihter in 4th on manual or 7th on auto, on my facebook page Jannettyracing.

I developed this package back in 2018 on my personal ZL1.

I sell and tune this package all over the world with similar results.

https://jannettyracing.com/products/...-kit-gen-6-zl1

The video is linked on this page.

Enjoy!

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Ted, to give people a baseline to work with, what does a stock A10 ZL1 put down on your dyno? I think you’ll agree that people comparing different numbers from different dyno brands with different correction factors with different altitude and weather conditions can be tricky lol….
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Old 01-11-2025, 09:23 AM   #34
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You posted a good question, I am providing good solid reliable data.

All Dynos Correct back to a standard day so the environmental conditions are a moot point and will not affect the results printed on the dyno sheet.

Our standard Flex fuel upgrade only has made 650 RWHP without Headers on E85.

You are pretty far off, that is what you asked all I am doing is providing an answer.

Do with it what you please.

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Uncle Ted, I appreciate the feedback and the response, what do the stock A10 put down on your Dyno?

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Old 01-11-2025, 09:52 AM   #35
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Ted, to give people a baseline to work with, what does a stock A10 ZL1 put down on your dyno? I think you’ll agree that people comparing different numbers from different dyno brands with different correction factors with different altitude and weather conditions can be tricky lol….
It is rare that I will dyno a stock car without at least bleeding the intercooler becasue they all have air in them.

We have seen as low as 530 with air and as high as 570 beed out,

Octane also plays a good roll in all of this with how knock limited the LT4 is stock so you will see differences from 91-93 octane

We are on 93 octane here and my dyno is 450 ft above sea level.

I have not seen in my 25 years operating Chassis dynos a wild difference in dyno numbers on stock cars from dyno to dyno typically all within 10% of each other unless of course there are other factors at play, like calibration or sensor errors, dyno operator error, lack of air flow in the dyno room causing EGR, dyno in wrong gear.

I show the stock dyno results against the finished dyno results in that video linked on my 125 Flex fuel upgrade package.
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Old 01-11-2025, 11:55 AM   #36
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Uncle Ted, I appreciate the feedback and the response, what do the stock A10 put down on your Dyno?
Let’s just settle this once and for all. Take it to uncle Ted’s Dyno and broadcast it live
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It is rare that I will dyno a stock car without at least bleeding the intercooler becasue they all have air in them.

We have seen as low as 530 with air and as high as 570 beed out,

Octane also plays a good roll in all of this with how knock limited the LT4 is stock so you will see differences from 91-93 octane

We are on 93 octane here and my dyno is 450 ft above sea level.

I have not seen in my 25 years operating Chassis dynos a wild difference in dyno numbers on stock cars from dyno to dyno *typically all within 10% of each other* unless of course there are other factors at play, like calibration or sensor errors, dyno operator error, lack of air flow in the dyno room causing EGR, dyno in wrong gear.

I show the stock dyno results against the finished dyno results in that video linked on my 125 Flex fuel upgrade package.
So using your number of 10%, that is 67 WHP or 76 crank HP with 12% drivetrain loss… not insignificant. Not saying that’s what happened here but we definitely shouldn’t pretend all dynos read the same.
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It is rare that I will dyno a stock car without at least bleeding the intercooler becasue they all have air in them.

We have seen as low as 530 with air and as high as 570 beed out,

Octane also plays a good roll in all of this with how knock limited the LT4 is stock so you will see differences from 91-93 octane

We are on 93 octane here and my dyno is 450 ft above sea level.

I have not seen in my 25 years operating Chassis dynos a wild difference in dyno numbers on stock cars from dyno to dyno typically all within 10% of each other unless of course there are other factors at play, like calibration or sensor errors, dyno operator error, lack of air flow in the dyno room causing EGR, dyno in wrong gear.

I show the stock dyno results against the finished dyno results in that video linked on my 125 Flex fuel upgrade package.

Well Mr. Ted Bundy Jannetty, from my point of view and please don't take this the wrong way, your Dyno results are not typical numbers of the bolt ons you are installing from everyone else, you claim you are using the stock pulleys and are no increasing boost, so either everyone else doesn't know what they are doing and doing it wrong or you might just have a very generous Dyno, so which could it be uncle Ted?? I don't see any stock pulley ZL1 autos put down no where near 670rwhp with just headers, roto fab and e50, that just doesn't jive with the rest of the other tuners and shops.
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