04-02-2024, 04:57 PM | #1 |
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shop offers 900HP package...
So, I ran across the link below for a shop that offers a ZL1 900HP package. I'm not questioning if they can do it or not. I'm just looking at their list of mods and see a lot of mods I have (highlighted in RED) and wondering. With out addressing any fuel system limitations. Is it really the heads, CAM and Meth that's making this big 900HP? The package lists these mods: CAR PERFORMANCE 900HP PACKAGE INCLUDES
Roto-Fab Big Gulp Intake System Nick Williams LT 103mm Drive-By-Wire Throttle Body KONG Performance LT4 Stage X CNC Ported Supercharger w/103mm Inlet Elite Engineering E2-X Catch Can GripTech 2.30" Upper Pulley w/10-Bolt Hub ATI Harmonic Balancer and 8-Rib OD Pulley and HD Belt NGK Spark Plugs JDP Motorsports Gen V LT4 Head and Camshaft Package Katech Gen V LT Wet Sump Oil Pump Ron Davis Racing Heat Exchanger AeroForce 52mm Single Dash Gauge Pod AEM X-Series Wideband UEGO AFR Sensor Controller Gauge with OBDII HP Tuners MPVI3 Alky Methanol Trunk System with Mounting Plate Mobil1 Engine Oil and GM filter JDP Limited Warranty Professional Installation by JDP Motorsports Custom Dyno and Street Tuning via HP Tuners exclusively by JDP Motorsports https://www.jdpmotorsports.com/produ...39959206854739
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2023 ZL1 Auto - CSP 2" Long Tubes by Stainless Works | Gesi G-Sport High Flow CATs | Stainless Works Legend NPP Axle Back | Roto-Fab Big Gulp | Kong NM103mm | Kong X-Port | Griptech 2.3" Upper | ATI Super Damper w/9.45" (18%) Lower | TooHigh PSI Port Injection w/Siemens 875cc Injectors | Brisk RR14S Plugs | Granatelli Malevolent Coil Packs | Katech Low Profile Billet Valve Covers | Katech Duel Fuel Pump System | MightyMouse Wild 1000HP CC | DSX Flex Fuel Kit | DSX Billet Lid | DMS 2gal Fender Tank | Unlocked T93 TCM | NT555R2's 285/305 | Katech Tuned | Straight E85 = 784rwhp / 678rwtq @ 19psi
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04-02-2024, 05:53 PM | #2 | |
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2017 Chevy Camaro 2SS A8 Whipple 3.0, Mast Black Label heads, Fore triple in-tank pumps, 112mm TB, LPE +52% injectors, LPE BB HPFP, 15” conversion 1059 WHP/944 WTQ, 9.48@150
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04-02-2024, 06:11 PM | #3 |
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The meth allows them to spin the blower faster and make more boost to get to the 900 hp level. I’m sure it’s legit, but I’d rather build without meth. Of course it would probably require a 2650 to get there.
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04-02-2024, 06:25 PM | #4 |
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ok cool.... I thought it was RWHP not crank.
So meth is better then say a interchiller due ot the fact that it's spraying directly into the air intake/cylinders vs just cooling
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2023 ZL1 Auto - CSP 2" Long Tubes by Stainless Works | Gesi G-Sport High Flow CATs | Stainless Works Legend NPP Axle Back | Roto-Fab Big Gulp | Kong NM103mm | Kong X-Port | Griptech 2.3" Upper | ATI Super Damper w/9.45" (18%) Lower | TooHigh PSI Port Injection w/Siemens 875cc Injectors | Brisk RR14S Plugs | Granatelli Malevolent Coil Packs | Katech Low Profile Billet Valve Covers | Katech Duel Fuel Pump System | MightyMouse Wild 1000HP CC | DSX Flex Fuel Kit | DSX Billet Lid | DMS 2gal Fender Tank | Unlocked T93 TCM | NT555R2's 285/305 | Katech Tuned | Straight E85 = 784rwhp / 678rwtq @ 19psi
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04-02-2024, 08:13 PM | #5 | |
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You’re better off getting a real fuel system and run E. That’s better than meth or an Interchiller IMO.
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2017 Chevy Camaro 2SS A8 Whipple 3.0, Mast Black Label heads, Fore triple in-tank pumps, 112mm TB, LPE +52% injectors, LPE BB HPFP, 15” conversion 1059 WHP/944 WTQ, 9.48@150
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04-02-2024, 08:23 PM | #6 |
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Heads, valve train, lower pulley, headers, CAI is 150 wheel on 93 oct. With the foundation to go a lot further
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04-03-2024, 07:56 AM | #7 |
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Pretty sure the OP thought the "900" package was rated at the wheels. It's a crank hp rating. As Josh mentioned that equals 750-770whp which is a run of the mill package.
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04-03-2024, 10:27 AM | #8 |
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Damn it... I need more parts / HP... not OK being "run of the mill" :(
HAHAHA
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2022 M6 ZLE: Katech Standard Ported Blower + Ported Heads + 103mm TB + Oil Pump + C5R Chain + Valve Covers + Coil Relocation Kit
TSP VVT and DoD Delete Covers + LME Chain Guide + DSX Billet Lid + ATI Damper + 9.17" Lower + 2.4" Upper + MM Wild CC + RF BG Coated AR Headers + GESI UHO Cats + V Bands + AWE Touring + Magnaflow Center X + MSD Coils + Banks iDash + JMS Booster ALL the BMR Read End Goodies + BMR Motor Mounts + JRE Terminator Cam Package + FIC 30 + DMS Front HX + Fender Tank GMS High Flow Impact Bar + GMS Stage II Oil Cooler + GMS Stage III HX System = 770rwhp 815rwtq @E55 13.5psi |
04-03-2024, 10:52 AM | #9 |
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? Or run more boost (with at least an X-port 1740), with all the bolt-ons, with all the E' (and PI and an aux' pump) and make that kind of power without cracking into the engine ?
It wouldn't have a cool chop though...
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04-04-2024, 09:03 AM | #10 |
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I didn't mean that in a negative way. That is plenty of power for a rwd street car. I just meant that as being an easy reliable power to hit in these cars that is still useable on the street.
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04-04-2024, 10:34 AM | #11 |
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So, as I'm typing this post. I know a 34% or 38% CAM is in my future. Maybe not the near future since spring/summer is right around the corner. But, this fall when the weather turns to SH. The engine will come out and the built will happen accordingly. I might have a one of the many reputable shops here on the forum do the work. But, I've been inspired by what SOCAL.M6.ZLE has done with his! So I might just do the work myself! Regardless, my build still doesn't have the one thing I want most: A choppy idle !
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2023 ZL1 Auto - CSP 2" Long Tubes by Stainless Works | Gesi G-Sport High Flow CATs | Stainless Works Legend NPP Axle Back | Roto-Fab Big Gulp | Kong NM103mm | Kong X-Port | Griptech 2.3" Upper | ATI Super Damper w/9.45" (18%) Lower | TooHigh PSI Port Injection w/Siemens 875cc Injectors | Brisk RR14S Plugs | Granatelli Malevolent Coil Packs | Katech Low Profile Billet Valve Covers | Katech Duel Fuel Pump System | MightyMouse Wild 1000HP CC | DSX Flex Fuel Kit | DSX Billet Lid | DMS 2gal Fender Tank | Unlocked T93 TCM | NT555R2's 285/305 | Katech Tuned | Straight E85 = 784rwhp / 678rwtq @ 19psi
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04-11-2024, 06:24 PM | #12 |
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not at all, I was at 908whp without meth or a 2650, I did use a 2300 though because it was built before the 2650 was released. I'm sure I could have put down the same numbers with a ported stock blower.
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04-12-2024, 06:21 AM | #13 |
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My "run of the mill" build is a lot of fun for a street car and more than enough for the street. Anything more is impossible to use, unless in Mexico with drags.
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04-12-2024, 08:42 AM | #14 |
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