[viurniel]

I can only imagine what Corvette can deliver for the base price of the GT.

[unavailablezl1]

Originally Posted by ST1LE

Then why is the ZR1 Corvette faster? This will get even worse for Ford when the C8 comes out. Let's not forget we are talking about GM cars faster than the GT for a FRACTION of the cost. You can't even get your hands on a GT, pointless to even bring it up.....did I mention the Corvette ZR1 is faster and cheaper?

When the C8 comes out being GM's mid engine platform, the Ford GT will just be an overpriced V6. Ford has announced it will make 350 more units of the GT until 2022. Then I assume they will quit making it. And the Corvette will live on like it always has.

+1.....Here is the ZR1 beating the Ford GT's record breaking time just a week later at VIR. Wow, so the Ford GT's record smashing lasted a whole week. Big deal.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_c...&v=j7j1gCM6-5M

[Stealth7]

Originally Posted by Markoz28

Uh, negative!

The Ford GT is out classed by some less priced cars and for the price I would take a 720s over it any day of the week. The GT500 will be a great car but once again not worth the 100k.

+1

LeMans and IMSA officials even admitted to giving the Ford GTs an Edge in Balance of Performance which essentially made the Ford GTs cheater cars. All race teams struggle with BOP, but it is admittedly the only way to "balance" the field. However, uneven application of BOP skews results... .

FGT is really an embarrassment at $500k plus. Cramped interior, V6, no storage, uncomfortable on the road, and smoked by countless less-expensive cars on road courses.

The new Ford GT500 will undoubtedly be a more reasonable car for Ford and its specs will also act to push the competition to respond, etc.

[unavailablezl1]

Originally Posted by Stealth7

+1

LeMans and IMSA officials even admitted to giving the Ford GTs an Edge in Balance of Performance which essentially made the Ford GTs cheater cars. All race teams struggle with BOP, but it is admittedly the only way to "balance" the field. However, uneven application of BOP skews results... .

FGT is really an embarrassment at $500k plus. Cramped interior, V6, no storage, uncomfortable on the road, and smoked by countless less-expensive cars on road courses.

The new Ford GT500 will undoubtedly be a more reasonable car for Ford and its specs will also act to push the competition to respond, etc.

I for one might consider an all out Camaro ZLE stripped down track version like the Z28 and GT350R and the LT5 in it. I still need A/C. But radio, I don't listen to it anyway so it can go away. Maxed out with CF driveshaft options, etc. Anything to make it "FeatherLite".

I want it and need it....Uh, ok, back to work now.

[Gunkk]

Originally Posted by viurniel

I can only imagine what Corvette can deliver for the base price of the GT.

A ZR1, a truck and trailer to haul it around, and a garage to park it all in.

[SFV1LE]

Originally Posted by unavailablezl1

I for one might consider an all out Camaro ZLE stripped down track version like the Z28 and GT350R and the LT5 in it. I still need A/C. But radio, I don't listen to it anyway so it can go away. Maxed out with CF driveshaft options, etc. Anything to make it "FeatherLite".

I want it and need it....Uh, ok, back to work now.

With the dimensions and amount of steel used, the ZLE will not be feather-light even gutted. It could be a lot lighter, but it would have to be gutted.

Removing the seats for Sparcos, removing anything else that's removable without making the interior ugly like a race car, it would still be heavy. If you remove the "radio", you lose access to certain important settings controlled there right, like exhaust valve? And you'd lose PDR control, and CarPlay for nav.

LT5 would be nice, but this car would be at least $90K base price right? Well worth it for a 750 HP supercar IMO, but getting very pricey.

I'd want 3 stage dry sump too.

[Mountain]

Originally Posted by TRZ06

YEP.

The GT500 is still on the old/outdated chassis, you can only hide that so much. You can throw coils, sticky rubber, less rubber in the bushings, etc., but there is only so much you can do before the chassis becomes the limiting factor.

The alpha chassis is still miles better.

The S550 is circa 2015MY.

The Alpha is circa 2013MY.

Just trying to be fair, here, but as far as age, they are equally as old.

I would agree in thinking the S550 < Alpha, but the S550 is still a very good platform. A good driver of a stock GT350R and SS 1LE (both "stock") will be back and forth on track for the most part.

If there is any question about how good the Alpha platform is, look at what kind of performance it can provide without aftermarket components. Then, look at what aftermarket components are even available and what their specs are...

[Mountain]

Originally Posted by Larrio Andretti

FORD already makes one of the greatest road cars of all time in my opinion. They surpassed the Corvette a long time ago. FORD beat Ferrari at Le’Mans 4 years in a row when Ferrari was at the top of its game. Let’s give FORD some respect. Mustang GT 500 is a great car. Let’s leave it at that and not try to micro dissect each and every measure of each vehicle.

Fantastic [race] car built by Multimatic

[unavailablezl1]

Originally Posted by Mountain

The S550 is circa 2015MY.

The Alpha is circa 2013MY.

Just trying to be fair, here, but as far as age, they are equally as old.

I would agree in thinking the S550 < Alpha, but the S550 is still a very good platform. A good driver of a stock GT350R and SS 1LE (both "stock") will be back and forth on track for the most part.

If there is any question about how good the Alpha platform is, look at what kind of performance it can provide without aftermarket components. Then, look at what aftermarket components are even available and what their specs are...

I know that the Alpha is a 2016 in a Camaro, but then maybe it came first in a Cadillac in 2013?

[TRZ06]

Originally Posted by unavailablezl1

I know that the Alpha is a 2016 in a Camaro, but then maybe it came first in a Cadillac in 2013?

Entirely possible. I guess GM just nailed the Alpha platform from the get go, even if it is that old.

To be fair to Ford, until they moved to IRS on the Mustang, they were not even in the game for handling. They are just lagging behind because this is a new ball game for them and they are still in learning mode.

I remember reading an article when they first switched over to IRS and in the article they said Ford had to re-design the entire front-end of the Mustang because it wasn't able to keep up with the more advanced rear-end.

So, they have been playing catch up since then and just are not there yet.

[Frankie18SS]

Originally Posted by unavailablezl1

When the C8 comes out being GM's mid engine platform, the Ford GT will just be an overpriced V6. Ford has announced it will make 350 more units of the GT until 2022. Then I assume they will quit making it. And the Corvette will live on like it always has.

+1.....Here is the ZR1 beating the Ford GT's record breaking time just a week later at VIR. Wow, so the Ford GT's record smashing lasted a whole week. Big deal.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_c...&v=j7j1gCM6-5M

My favorite part of what happened with the VIR track record is within a week, Ford announced it will no longer attempt any lap records with the GT... anywhere...ever again.

[Artos]

Originally Posted by Frankie18SS

My favorite part of what happened with the VIR track record is within a week, Ford announced it will no longer attempt any lap records with the GT... anywhere...ever again.

Wow, that was a formal announcement?? I'm still astonished they put the eco in this last GT as well & just seemed sorta cheesy for some reason to me...Ford really needs to do a formal hero run at the ring' with the 500 to give it some legitimacy against the ZL1. I find it sad they don't want to dance as it would really add to the pot on US made muscle. GM is really the only game on this side of the pond willing to tackle bragging rights with overall sports car performance & we have one of the best dollar for dollar.

Best thing that could happen for GM is to see the 500 be faster than the ZL1 to perpetuate the competition. Maybe even mopar will get off her ass & produce another car that is able to actually use it's steering wheel again against the stand & camaro. Would really like to see the Challenger / Charger make a chassis to handle the road course & put the big three all back into the same game.

[unavailablezl1]

Originally Posted by Frankie18SS

My favorite part of what happened with the VIR track record is within a week, Ford announced it will no longer attempt any lap records with the GT... anywhere...ever again.

From the years I have kept up with racing and Ford Racing against the Corvette, whenever the Corvette Racing Team shows up, the Ford team all have a sick feeling in their stomach

[unavailablezl1]

Originally Posted by Artos

Wow, that was a formal announcement?? I'm still astonished they put the eco in this last GT as well & just seemed sorta cheesy for some reason to me...Ford really needs to do a formal hero run at the ring' with the 500 to give it some legitimacy against the ZL1. I find it sad they don't want to dance as it would really add to the pot on US made muscle. GM is really the only game on this side of the pond willing to tackle bragging rights with overall sports car performance & we have one of the best dollar for dollar.

Best thing that could happen for GM is to see the 500 be faster than the ZL1 to perpetuate the competition. Maybe even mopar will get off her ass & produce another car that is able to actually use it's steering wheel again against the stand & camaro. Would really like to see the Challenger / Charger make a chassis to handle the road course & put the big three all back into the same game.

Me being on the Mustang6g for awhile since I have had the GT350, the Ford fans over there always poopoo on the 'Ring because they say it does not mean anything. And everytime a ZL1 beats the GT350(R) they always say it does not count because it was on a different day....sad. They say Ford won't go to the 'ring, for whatever countless reasons. I think it is because Ford knows they can't beat GM and doesn't want to look bad.