PRAY Performance STG 1 Modified H/C package dyno numbers. - Page 3

PRAY · 02-15-2018, 02:50 PM

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Originally Posted by boostednut

What this should say is:
I know what I'm doing, and I don't blow smoke up anyone's ass.

What kind of oil are you running for most of these setups?

LOL, I guess you could say that.

I run Royal Purple normally. This car has Amzoil.

boostednut · 02-15-2018, 02:52 PM

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Originally Posted by PRAY

LOL, I guess you could say that.

I run Royal Purple normally. This car has Amzoil.

Do you recommend stock weights for NA cars? I'm not sure what the LT1 stock clearances are like

PRAY · 02-15-2018, 02:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Franko07

Compression wise, what do you think you can get away with on a stock bottom end and still be within reason as far as able to run 93 octane if you got in a pinch?

i don't drive mine but 2k miles a year so added compression is not a problem other than if i took it on the power tour or something.
With your current knowledge, what is your suggested setup for a situation as far as parts and type of mods to get there?

9.2 to 9.3 DCR with proper timing is fine for pump gas.

Parts and mods to get where? I must not be understanding your question.

PRAY · 02-15-2018, 02:56 PM

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Originally Posted by boostednut

Do you recommend stock weights for NA cars? I'm not sure what the LT1 stock clearances are like

Stock weight.

Franko07 · 02-15-2018, 04:25 PM

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Originally Posted by PRAY

9.2 to 9.3 DCR with proper timing is fine for pump gas.

Parts and mods to get where? I must not be understanding your question.

i guess i didnt really understand what i was asking...

Theoretically if you get to the 9.3 DCR and do all the supporting mods whats your goal to be at once tuned? what would make you happy if it was a car you were working on?

00Form · 02-15-2018, 09:17 PM

Congrats! The power is incredible. I hope he brings it to the track. If he is able to trap mid 130s, this would be the route I would want to take.

slowlypullin · 02-18-2018, 12:56 AM

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Originally Posted by PRAY

Considering on a 26" tire you will be in the mid 6K rpm range by the 60ft I think you will actually see a slight reduction in 60ft. This thing should mph like a big dog on the stock converter. It would be very interesting to see what this package would do on your car. It should trap mid 130's for sure.

Mid 130's N/A??

PRAY · 02-18-2018, 04:38 AM

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Originally Posted by slowlypullin

Mid 130's N/A??

Yes, this package in Troy's car in the same DA he ran his other bests in should trap low to mid 130's N/A.

TEEZYSS · 02-19-2018, 01:37 PM

I could easily see this setup running low 10's and trapping mid 130's. The stock convertor will let this setup eat on mph! I could see the added power from the hit putting a car that regularly goes 1.5's into the 1.4's

ULTRAZLS1 · 03-13-2018, 05:39 PM

Pray have you had a chance to test a 103 TB on any heads cam builds ?

Do you think it would be worth anything ? When I built my ls3 the jury was split. And some thought driveability and tuning would be hindered

Would be cool if you could test one against a ported unit on a heads cam car...if you haven’t already

USAFS197 · 03-13-2018, 08:58 PM

He might point out the velocity with a 103mm tb being potentially detrimental to throttle response and low end grunt. Me thinks if you were boosted or only wanted to pick up on the back half of the track, you might see some improvement. But if it only lives for the 1320 then, by all means.

PRAY · 03-14-2018, 04:48 AM

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Originally Posted by ULTRAZLS1

Pray have you had a chance to test a 103 TB on any heads cam builds ?

Do you think it would be worth anything ? When I built my ls3 the jury was split. And some thought driveability and tuning would be hindered

Would be cool if you could test one against a ported unit on a heads cam car...if you haven’t already

I have not tested one yet. If you or anyone wants to send me one I will test it. I have heard from some reputable shops that it was worth 10+rw over a stock TB on some of their H/C cars. I was also told that it actually helped drivability and throttle response. But, that was tested against a stock TB. I am not sure what it would give over my ported stuff.

I would have to look into the tuning side as well as far as sizing the TB cross section properly. I can't see it hurting though. I think I did the math and it is something like an extra 1,400 sqmm of cross section area. But I don't know how that much blade area will react with a cam. The old minimum TB trimming steps were 4mm so on a cam car the 102's could make surging worse. Some people would drill a hole to smooth out the air flow and keep the overlap pull under the 4mm step. It is all hard to tell till I got one dialed in.

When properly ported I have not seen the stock TB pose a restriction yet to the hp levels I have been able to achieve, but it doesn't mean there are not gains there. I have one of my ported versions on a blower car that is making around 1,200rw. I understand that is an F/I car though so it doesn't really count.

Jmechler192 · 04-15-2018, 11:40 PM

Any idea what this car runs on 93 instead of E85?

PRAY · 04-16-2018, 07:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Jmechler192

Any idea what this car runs on 93 instead of E85?

I usually gain 25rw on E.

03-13-2018, 08:58 PM	#39
USAFS197 Drives: 2018 Audi TT RS Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: Navarre, Florida Posts: 1,915	He might point out the velocity with a 103mm tb being potentially detrimental to throttle response and low end grunt. Me thinks if you were boosted or only wanted to pick up on the back half of the track, you might see some improvement. But if it only lives for the 1320 then, by all means. __________________ 2018 Audi TT ▊RS 2.4X 0-60, 1.6X 60', 120+mph 1/8th, 4.XX 60-130, 150+mph traps on 255/35/18 R888R tires on the street (unprepped). 2019 Audi RS3 About as fast as the TT RS 2019 Camaro ZL1 1LE Sold 2018 Camaro SS 1LE Sold 2019 Corvette Z06 Sold 2021 Charger Hellcat Redeye Widebody Sold

02-15-2018, 09:17 PM	#34
00Form Drives: 2017 Camaro SS Join Date: Nov 2017 Location: Palm Beach Gardens Posts: 30	Congrats! The power is incredible. I hope he brings it to the track. If he is able to trap mid 130s, this would be the route I would want to take.

02-19-2018, 01:37 PM	#37
TEEZYSS Drives: 2016 CAMARO 2SS Join Date: Apr 2017 Location: ATX Posts: 272	I could easily see this setup running low 10's and trapping mid 130's. The stock convertor will let this setup eat on mph! I could see the added power from the hit putting a car that regularly goes 1.5's into the 1.4's

03-13-2018, 05:39 PM	#38
ULTRAZLS1 Drives: 14 Silverado LTZ Z71, 16 Camaro SS Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Jackson, Michigan Posts: 4,423	Pray have you had a chance to test a 103 TB on any heads cam builds ? Do you think it would be worth anything ? When I built my ls3 the jury was split. And some thought driveability and tuning would be hindered Would be cool if you could test one against a ported unit on a heads cam car...if you haven’t already

04-15-2018, 11:40 PM	#41
Jmechler192 Drives: Summit White 2017 Camaro SS 1LE Join Date: Jun 2017 Location: Tallahassee Posts: 23	Any idea what this car runs on 93 instead of E85?

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