[BlaqWhole]

Originally Posted by Bench racers

If it ran the number it ran the number. Do you doubt A8 Camaro's just being bought and going to the strip running 11's? The idea of the stang running with a C7 or a Zl1 stock is a stretch by the GM crowd from what ive been reading. The references ive seen about that discussion has always been what a bolt-on stang has the capability of doing. Hasn't someone already gone in the 9's with a boosted 2018 stang?

And that is the problem. Now all of a sudden the Mustang crowd wants to compare bolt-on cars to stock cars when it was forbidden by them before. If some kid in a Honda said his bolt-on whatever could beat a stock GT then they'd all be shouting that anything can be modded to beat anything. But now they wanna walk around talking about how their bolt-on GTs can beat stock ZL1 and Z06s and Stingrays. And in all reality they can't. They saw one bolt-on GT run a certain time and then compared it to a fast list and started making wild claims of victory. And that is what ricers do.

92 in a boosted GT? Well sure as long as it had other supporting upgrades (tires and suspension) with a good driver. How much will that blower cost? And then again, an SS can do that too. And a modded ZL1 could do that. The SS and the ZL1 can also handle really well on the stock suspension. Can a GT do that?

[Bench racers]

Originally Posted by BlaqWhole

And that is the problem. Now all of a sudden the Mustang crowd wants to compare bolt-on cars to stock cars when it was forbidden by them before. If some kid in a Honda said his bolt-on whatever could beat a stock GT then they'd all be shouting that anything can be modded to beat anything. But now they wanna walk around talking about how their bolt-on GTs can beat stock ZL1 and Z06s and Stingrays. And in all reality they can't. They saw one bolt-on GT run a certain time and then compared it to a fast list and started making wild claims of victory. And that is what ricers do.

92 in a boosted GT? Well sure as long as it had other supporting upgrades (tires and suspension) with a good driver. How much will that blower cost? And then again, an SS can do that too. And a modded ZL1 could do that. The SS and the ZL1 can also handle really well on the stock suspension. Can a GT do that?

I think it just ran in the 9 second zone, how deep I can't remember. If it needed some suspension upgrades to get there then who cares? I wouldn't want to be running that fast on stock irs components either knowing its just a matter of time before it fails. As far as the rest, you can't say every mustang guy thinks that a bolt on 18 GT can outrun a ZL1 or C7 just because a couple of group huggers say so. It's people like that on both sides of the coin and just reading this thread shows that.

[BlaqWhole]

Originally Posted by Bench racers

I think it just ran in the 9 second zone, how deep I can't remember. If it needed some suspension upgrades to get there then who cares? I wouldn't want to be running that fast on stock irs components either knowing its just a matter of time before it fails. As far as the rest, you can't say every mustang guy thinks that a bolt on 18 GT can outrun a ZL1 or C7 just because a couple of group huggers say so. It's people like that on both sides of the coin and just reading this thread shows that.

The point is it isn't as easy as just slapping a blower on and running 9s like people wanna believe. It needs lots of other mods to support that kind of performance. And you're coming late to the party but basically there were quite a few of the GT crowd coming over trolling our boards and claiming that an 18 GT with a tire and tune would beat ZL1s and Z06s and Hellcats etc. One particular troll started that nonsense...but he doesn't show his face often anymore since the GT didn't do anything he bragged that it would do, lol!! In fact there were lots of kids on YT and FB pages/groups (and M6G) repeating that nonsense.

Performance costs money. Lots of it. If it didn't then we'd all have brand new cars that run 9s. So when we get delusional kids thinking a $35K base model GT with a few hundred dollars in mods can beat $63K cars that perform on the supercar level then they need to be checked.

[Bench racers]

Originally Posted by BlaqWhole

The point is it isn't as easy as just slapping a blower on and running 9s like people wanna believe. It needs lots of other mods to support that kind of performance. And you're coming late to the party but basically there were quite a few of the GT crowd coming over trolling our boards and claiming that an 18 GT with a tire and tune would beat ZL1s and Z06s and Hellcats etc. One particular troll started that nonsense...but he doesn't show his face often anymore since the GT didn't do anything he bragged that it would do, lol!! In fact there were lots of kids on YT and FB pages/groups (and M6G) repeating that nonsense.

Performance costs money. Lots of it. If it didn't then we'd all have brand new cars that run 9s. So when we get delusional kids thinking a $35K base model GT with a few hundred dollars in mods can beat $63K cars that perform on the supercar level then they need to be checked.

Come on now, I don't think anyone said a couple hundred dollars in a base GT could run with a supercar. What I've been reading is that a bolt-on A10 car with dragpack, E85, weight reduction and a good tune can run what those supercars run at the dragstrip STOCK. This thread seems to be about an e. t. at the dragstrip and most guys at the track are trying to get from point A to B as fast as they can " and faster than the other guy" and could really care less if it's stock or a supercar.

[Gunkk]

Just like a stock GT cannot run with a stock ZL1, "A bolt on GT" cannot run with "a bolt on ZL1."

And unless you have >>ZL1 money in your GT "bolt ons" you're not gonna hang with a ZL1.

Sorry, thanks for playing. Try again another day.

[FastCarFanBoy]

Originally Posted by BlaqWhole

I didn't complain about it nor did I report it. If I did then trust me I would have no trouble admitting it. My reply to it got deleted as well. You think I reported my own shit too? I addressed YOU. And sensitivity has nothing to do with it. You were out of line which is evident by the fact that your post was deleted. Instead of trying to place blame on others maybe you should own up to your transgression.

What you want to do and what you actually could do are about as far apart as your home state of Florida is from where I'm at in NJ. Don't delude yourself into thinking it is anything more than a fantasy of yours tough guy.

Go easy Ruthless. Your hyper defensiveness, sprinkled with hints of internet badassery caused me to question myself. I returned the hose and duct tape and cancelled my accommodations at the Shore.

As far as my fantasies about you... those have always been purely sexual.

[Wild One]

Originally Posted by Gunkk

Just like a stock GT cannot run with a stock ZL1, "A bolt on GT" cannot run with "a bolt on ZL1."

And unless you have >>ZL1 money in your GT "bolt ons" you're not gonna hang with a ZL1.

Sorry, thanks for playing. Try again another day.

[Chadicus]

Originally Posted by Bench racers

Come on now, I don't think anyone said a couple hundred dollars in a base GT could run with a supercar. What I've been reading is that a bolt-on A10 car with dragpack, E85, weight reduction and a good tune can run what those supercars run at the dragstrip STOCK. This thread seems to be about an e. t. at the dragstrip and most guys at the track are trying to get from point A to B as fast as they can " and faster than the other guy" and could really care less if it's stock or a supercar.

Actually earlier in this thread and other threads they did claim that. That an e85 tune and tire is all the GT needs to run with a ZL1. That was before C&D said the GT is still slower than the SS.

Then this thread devolved even further with how the DOHC Coyote is a better engine because it's more "athletic". When the GT loses in MT H2H the Mustang boys will be on the tune and tire BS.

[Wild One]

As far as my fantasies about you... those have always been purely sexual.



I knew it!

[newmoon]

Originally Posted by Chadicus

Actually earlier in this thread and other threads they did claim that. That an e85 tune and tire is all the GT needs to run with a ZL1. That was before C&D said the GT is still slower than the SS.

Then this thread devolved even further with how the DOHC Coyote is a better engine because it's more "athletic". When the GT loses in MT H2H the Mustang boys will be on the tune and tire BS.

Did C&D test a E85 18 GT? Lund has several passes in the 11:30s range, isn't that where the A10 ZL1s running? Not bad considering the ZL1 probably still has a 100 rwhp advantage. The same E85 6th Gen SS is also capable of these numbers as well also running with stock ZL1s. If you are running a stock ZL1 and are dismissing E85 drag pack or bolt on GTs or SS you may be in for a rude awakening.

[SSfriendly]

Originally Posted by BlaqWhole

The point is it isn't as easy as just slapping a blower on and running 9s like people wanna believe. It needs lots of other mods to support that kind of performance. And you're coming late to the party but basically there were quite a few of the GT crowd coming over trolling our boards and claiming that an 18 GT with a tire and tune would beat ZL1s and Z06s and Hellcats etc. One particular troll started that nonsense...but he doesn't show his face often anymore since the GT didn't do anything he bragged that it would do, lol!! In fact there were lots of kids on YT and FB pages/groups (and M6G) repeating that nonsense.

Performance costs money. Lots of it. If it didn't then we'd all have brand new cars that run 9s. So when we get delusional kids thinking a $35K base model GT with a few hundred dollars in mods can beat $63K cars that perform on the supercar level then they need to be checked.

https://youtu.be/UP-T8RUay5w

This tune and tire GT sits firmly at number four on your ZL1 fast list with a comparable MPH. It's funny how you seem to ignore this.

As for the ZL1 performing on the "supercar" level....man are you delusional.

Why don't you look up the 0-60 and 1/4 mile time/mph for a Ferarri 488GTB or Lamborghini Hurracan.



Every "supercar" in that video absolutely demolishes the ZL1 in acceleration.

[oldman]

Originally Posted by newmoon

. If you are running a stock ZL1 and are dismissing E85 drag pack or bolt on GTs or SS you may be in for a rude awakening.

I think there is some merit in this and that is what makes drag racing fun.

I also think the other side of coin is equally valid, the fastest completely stock ZL1 here is in the 10s, that is a full second faster than any where any time any driver stock 5.0, nuff said. apples to apples fastest ringer vs fastest ringer the ZL1 is dominant by a large margin. Does that mean Joe average zl1 manual can 1/4 better than a ringer auto GT 2018 with drag pack and E85? Nope. I just means alpha to alpha the ZL1 is clearly superior. Anything less is just that less. Mod for mod, driver for driver, the Zl1 is clealy the alpha. We are Mericans and as such we like the underdog + knowhow = win, amen.

I'm impressed with the new A10 and even impressed with the new 5.0, but really once you tug on Superman's cape. I think you should be prepared for a serious smackdown.

[motorhead]

Originally Posted by SSfriendly

https://youtu.be/UP-T8RUay5w

This tune and tire GT sits firmly at number four on your ZL1 fast list with a comparable MPH. It's funny how you seem to ignore this.

As for the ZL1 performing on the "supercar" level....man are you delusional.

Why don't you look up the 0-60 and 1/4 mile time/mph for a Ferarri 488GTB or Lamborghini Hurracan.



Every "supercar" in that video absolutely demolishes the ZL1 in acceleration.

oh and by the way, did you miss something in your own post? It didn't get "demolished " by all of them.

[BlaqWhole]

Originally Posted by FastCarFanBoy

Go easy Ruthless. Your hyper defensiveness, sprinkled with hints of internet badassery caused me to question myself. I returned the hose and duct tape and cancelled my accommodations at the Shore.

Funny how people these days act like an ass and then everyone else is "defensive". You're the one talking about drowning people yet I'M the internet badass? You're as delusional about Human interaction as you are about the Mustang. So let's clear this up. Since the theme online is to act like you pissed people off and they're "upset" and "defensive"...no, I'm not upset nor do I feel any need to be defensive. You were out of line and I addressed you personally. If it helps you to sleep at night to fool yourself into thinking anything other than that then go right ahead. If it gives your Mustang pals a chuckle over in Mustang land then go right ahead. If that is the only win you can drum up then here is a pat on the back and some internet cool points for you. Congrats.

Originally Posted by newmoon

Did C&D test a E85 18 GT? Lund has several passes in the 11:30s range, isn't that where the A10 ZL1s running? Not bad considering the ZL1 probably still has a 100 rwhp advantage. The same E85 6th Gen SS is also capable of these numbers as well also running with stock ZL1s. If you are running a stock ZL1 and are dismissing E85 drag pack or bolt on GTs or SS you may be in for a rude awakening.

And there are bolt-on Hondas that can beat stock GTs. I could buy a 350Z, 370Z, Evo, WRX, etc, throw bolt-ons at it, and then beat a GT easily. What do you think about that?

Originally Posted by SSfriendly

https://youtu.be/UP-T8RUay5w

This tune and tire GT sits firmly at number four on your ZL1 fast list with a comparable MPH. It's funny how you seem to ignore this.

As for the ZL1 performing on the "supercar" level....man are you delusional.

Why don't you look up the 0-60 and 1/4 mile time/mph for a Ferarri 488GTB or Lamborghini Hurracan.



Every "supercar" in that video absolutely demolishes the ZL1 in acceleration.

I just took a look at our list and I don't see it over there. Where is it again? Oh and guess what. An SS with a tune can beat a GT350R. And a bolt-on SS with a tune can beat the 13-14 GT500 despite the 200+ hp advantage. What are your thoughts on that?