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Old 12-04-2017, 01:03 PM   #183
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The base GT got slaughtered by the SS. Even the old PP couldn't hang.

The PP1 would be the more appropriate competition to the SS. A base GT is more rental car duty.
When someone walks into a dealership looking for the lowest priced V8 in each model, what are their options?

It doesn't matter what anyone "thinks" would be more appropriate.

Like it or not, the standard mustang GT is the current competitor to the SS.


As for the performance packs, the previous model year PP really didn't line up well with the 1LE, but it's all that was available. For the MY18, it's obvious that the PP2 was gunning for the 1LE while the PP1 is more suited for your daily driver upgrade.

Again, there is nothing that says one car HAS to align with another....but the lowest level of each will always line up and will be fighting each-other for sales, regardless of performance.
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Old 12-04-2017, 01:06 PM   #184
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A base GT is more rental car duty.
Or for people who want to customize their car and not pay for expensive components they'll ultimately be replacing.
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Old 12-04-2017, 02:33 PM   #185
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Jesus you guys argue the dumbest of things.

If you're having a dick sizing contest then the PP1 and the 1/2SS would be more closely matched. If you're the average consumer looking for a good cheap V8 to tune out or commute with, the base GT and 1SS are two.
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Old 12-04-2017, 04:06 PM   #186
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Or for people who want to customize their car and not pay for expensive components they'll ultimately be replacing.
Or for people who can't afford anything other than a base GT. I like how everyone in a base GT talks about how they don't need this option or that option but then when they get a little money in their pockets they all of a sudden bypass the base models to get the very same options they didn't need before.
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Old 12-05-2017, 07:11 AM   #187
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Or for people who can't afford anything other than a base GT. I like how everyone in a base GT talks about how they don't need this option or that option but then when they get a little money in their pockets they all of a sudden bypass the base models to get the very same options they didn't need before.
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Old 01-02-2018, 03:27 PM   #188
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The H2H should be up on the on demand site this month. Any idea on when they post new videos?
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Old 01-02-2018, 03:37 PM   #189
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The H2H should be up on the on demand site this month. Any idea on when they post new videos?
The last one was released on Dec 13th, so I'd assume Jan 10th or Jan 17th for this one.

Can't wait!
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Old 01-02-2018, 03:57 PM   #190
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I think it’s 2nd Wednesday of month. So should be 10th
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Old 01-02-2018, 03:59 PM   #191
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The last one was released on Dec 13th, so I'd assume Jan 10th or Jan 17th for this one.

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Can't wait? Lol what new info is it going to tell you? We all know that it shouldn't be all that competitive, there will be nothing surprising by the results.

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Old 01-02-2018, 04:36 PM   #192
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Can't wait? Lol what new info is it going to tell you? We all know that it shouldn't be all that competitive, there will be nothing surprising by the results.

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Mustang guys were making excuses that the Car and Driver test was not run on the same day as the Camaro. This will eliminate that excuse and provide another datapoint.

I'm also interested to see how Motor Trend likes the GT.
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Old 01-02-2018, 07:21 PM   #193
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Mustang guys were making excuses that the Car and Driver test was not run on the same day as the Camaro. This will eliminate that excuse and provide another datapoint.

I'm also interested to see how Motor Trend likes the GT.
Plus it'll give us more proof that we can rub int heir faces. Even now they're trying to find every excuse as to why the GT lost. From tires to options etc. They're looking for everything to argue the reality that it is not faster than the SS and is nowhere near the level of a ZL1, lol!!
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It will be a good direct comparison. Plus, I like seeing the Camaro win.
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Old 01-02-2018, 09:13 PM   #195
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Can't wait? Lol what new info is it going to tell you? We all know that it shouldn't be all that competitive, there will be nothing surprising by the results.

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Oh please. A month or so ago all the FF (Ford Fanboys) would have claimed they were going to win virtually all categories. It's only due to info in the recent weeks that reality is starting to set in for you guys...MY18 GT is a big improvement from the previous years, but nowhere near what was hoped/hyped.
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Oh please. A month or so ago all the FF (Ford Fanboys) would have claimed they were going to win virtually all categories. It's only due to info in the recent weeks that reality is starting to set in for you guys...MY18 GT is a big improvement from the previous years, but nowhere near what was hoped/hyped.
Direct quotes please of these comments.

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