[5.M0NSTER]

Hey all, been a minute.

I have recently (April 2025) gotten a new set of Yoko Advan Neova AD09s. I have a few k miles on these now, and 3 track days. And now the Hoosiers are out! Has anyone tried them on an SS 1LE yet?

Looking for feedback. Why?

It has been a mixed bag for me with the AD09s. On one hand I recently improved my PB at Grattan in 80F weather a few weeks ago by 0.2s. But on the other I was entering understeer and 4 wheel (unexpected) drifts in places I usually don't at Mid Ohio in 96F weather just yesterday.

I am having some buyer's remorse. While the tire is fairly fast, I don't think it's compatible with my driving style.

I've driven Pilot Sport Cup 2s, Ventus RS4s and GEF1s on various cars prior to this. They all (particularly the Cup2) had extra grip left for when you really need to reach for it. The AD09 seems to lack that at 10/10ths. Wear is fantastic on the AD09, hardly any visible thread loss at this point, but not exactly what I was after.

I'm curious if anyone has tried the Hoosiers, as they seem to be likely to be the new king of fast for track days outside a full slick.

[TransamGTA350]

I have not personally run the AD09 or the Hoosier Track Attack, but I'd recommend taking a look at some of the tire test articles over at Grassroots Motorsports. They have tested both of those tires and provide a lot of great information.

Regarding the Track Attack vs. the AD09, they are very different tires intended for different purposes. The AD09 is more of an endurance tire, similar to the OEM Goodyear SC3. Less ultimate grip than a super 200 (Track Attack, RE71RS, A052, etc.), but they will hang on longer in a session without overheating and wear slower.

There have been mixed reviews on the Track Attacks. They are fast initially, but the reports are that they heat cycle out pretty quickly and also wear very fast. They have similar behavior to a Hoosier slick, just with tread. If you are going for competitive autocross or TT and looking for every tenth and using a brand new set of tires for every event, that's what they are for. If you are doing HPDE, I'd run something else.

I've run the SC3's on the stock wheels and also RE71RS's in a 305/30R19 square setup. The RE71RS's are about 1/2 second faster than the SC3's on a 1:20 lap, fastest lap typically around lap 3 and then overheating and greasy around lap 8-10. Cool days they will hang on for most of a 20 minute session, hot days they fall off a lot sooner. SC3's take 2-3 laps to wake up, fastest lap around 6-7 and they generally hang on the whole session. Your AD09's are likely similar.

I have about one track day of life left in the SC3's and will replace them with PS4S's for street and wet track. I do really like the RE71RS's, but will be trying out the Vitour P1's next. The Vitours reportedly have similar ultimate grip to the RE71RS's, but with a little higher heat tolerance. They take an extra lap or 2 to wake up, but will hang on longer before overheating.

[dreksnot]

Handling: The Hoosier TAPs grip like the Goodyear SC3R's when hot. Warmup is much quicker though, requiring about 1/2 a lap versus 1-1/2 for the GY. They'll hold nice and tight until multiple sessions. By the end of the day I've found them to start to lose their grip (much like any other tire I've driven (not saying much)).

Talking about wear: I've ran through a set of Hoosier TAP tires after about 50 laps and two heavy autocrosses. I needed more camber up front and have have since added it. Corded the shoulders too early. The guide from Hoosier says the TAPs like more tire pressure so I was running the recommended 42-43psi but... results up front appeared fine with it however I think they running 36-37psi better. For the rears, corded the middle. I had too much pressure and figured about 31-32psi to be better. I have a new set on the car now, with more F&R camber and adjusted tire pressures so will have to see how that goes.

[5.M0NSTER]

Originally Posted by TransamGTA350

I have not personally run the AD09 or the Hoosier Track Attack, but I'd recommend taking a look at some of the tire test articles over at Grassroots Motorsports. They have tested both of those tires and provide a lot of great information.

Regarding the Track Attack vs. the AD09, they are very different tires intended for different purposes. The AD09 is more of an endurance tire, similar to the OEM Goodyear SC3. Less ultimate grip than a super 200 (Track Attack, RE71RS, A052, etc.), but they will hang on longer in a session without overheating and wear slower.

There have been mixed reviews on the Track Attacks. They are fast initially, but the reports are that they heat cycle out pretty quickly and also wear very fast. They have similar behavior to a Hoosier slick, just with tread. If you are going for competitive autocross or TT and looking for every tenth and using a brand new set of tires for every event, that's what they are for. If you are doing HPDE, I'd run something else.

I've run the SC3's on the stock wheels and also RE71RS's in a 305/30R19 square setup. The RE71RS's are about 1/2 second faster than the SC3's on a 1:20 lap, fastest lap typically around lap 3 and then overheating and greasy around lap 8-10. Cool days they will hang on for most of a 20 minute session, hot days they fall off a lot sooner. SC3's take 2-3 laps to wake up, fastest lap around 6-7 and they generally hang on the whole session. Your AD09's are likely similar.

I have about one track day of life left in the SC3's and will replace them with PS4S's for street and wet track. I do really like the RE71RS's, but will be trying out the Vitour P1's next. The Vitours reportedly have similar ultimate grip to the RE71RS's, but with a little higher heat tolerance. They take an extra lap or 2 to wake up, but will hang on longer before overheating.

Thanks for the feedback! I have been so curious to try out RE71RS, but I'm still on a staggered factory setup for wheels/tires/suspension. Interested to hear how you like the VP1.

[5.M0NSTER]

Originally Posted by dreksnot

Handling: The Hoosier TAPs grip like the Goodyear SC3R's when hot. Warmup is much quicker though, requiring about 1/2 a lap versus 1-1/2 for the GY. They'll hold nice and tight until multiple sessions. By the end of the day I've found them to start to lose their grip (much like any other tire I've driven (not saying much)).

Talking about wear: I've ran through a set of Hoosier TAP tires after about 50 laps and two heavy autocrosses. I needed more camber up front and have have since added it. Corded the shoulders too early. The guide from Hoosier says the TAPs like more tire pressure so I was running the recommended 42-43psi but... results up front appeared fine with it however I think they running 36-37psi better. For the rears, corded the middle. I had too much pressure and figured about 31-32psi to be better. I have a new set on the car now, with more F&R camber and adjusted tire pressures so will have to see how that goes.

Thank you, good reference points for overall grip too. Appreciate that.

Real good info on pressures and wear. 50 lpas +2 autox seems like 2 full track days. That's fast wear by 200 street tire standart!

[TransamGTA350]

Originally Posted by 5.M0NSTER

Thanks for the feedback! I have been so curious to try out RE71RS, but I'm still on a staggered factory setup for wheels/tires/suspension. Interested to hear how you like the VP1.

I'll report back on the P1's later this year. I ordered them in the 305/30R19 square setup and will put them on when the RE71's are done. They have 1 or 2 more days left in them.

You can get the P1's in the stock 20" sizes, so that's a nice option if you aren't going to go with a 2nd set of wheels.

I'll will say though that the 305 square setup on 19's is really nice. It's more neutral balanced and has much less mid-corner understeer. Easier to get the car to rotate and get it positioned for corner exit.

[Christian1LE]

TA Pros are only good when brand new, they will wear out super fast and aren't very quick after a few heat cycles. Useless tires.

Best street tire I used on the camaro was the Nankang CRSV2

[carguy55]

Grassroots Motorsports ultimate track tire guide

https://grassrootsmotorsports.com/ar...-buyers-guide/

[5.M0NSTER]

Originally Posted by carguy55

Grassroots Motorsports ultimate track tire guide

https://grassrootsmotorsports.com/ar...-buyers-guide/

Thanks for that, great article. Wish I came across it a few months ago!

[NG329]

Originally Posted by Christian1LE

TA Pros are only good when brand new, they will wear out super fast and aren't very quick after a few heat cycles. Useless tires.

Best street tire I used on the camaro was the Nankang CRSV2

I have to co-sign this.

Fast chick in a C7 Z06 running CR-S with 3 full HPDE events on them out by me matched my personal best (1:25.x) at NJMP Thunderbolt which I did on Pirelli scrubs - which is F'en Fast! Those Nankangs are the real MF'n deal! Granted, it's not apples to apples comparison, but those tires impressed regardless. They are legit faster than a Cup 2R which is saying something! Too bad they are on nationwide backorder due to customs processing - so I've been told. Otherwise, I would have bought a set of those.

Hoosiers are known for excessive wear on the shoulders. The A7/R7 are also notorious for that and there are plenty of threads on a few forums speaking on that matter. I thought loooooooong and hard (Pause LOL) about buying the TAP, but in the end, I opted for the Conti ECF because I could use more life and heat cycle resistance on days when I am coaching or just working on a few things. Also, the tread depth no the TAP is low for a 200tw tire. I've run A7 and R7, and honestly, I wasn't impressed. Maybe it's just the weight of the Camaro or my driving style. I don't think the TAP will be any different as some have described it as a cut R7.

[5.M0NSTER]

Hi all, reviving this thread a bit to share this informative video. After a full season on the Advan AD09 I am a bit disappointed. I did get a PB at Grattan by 0.1s, but overall not too happy with the tire. It requires MUCH lower pressures than I'm used to (24psi cold, 30 hot) but even then I feel like SC3 is more consistent.

Either way, for your viewing enjoyment and informative tire choice help. I will likely be going back to SC3 after AD09s are done.