[Driv200]

These cars been out long enough, I’m trying to convince myself there are enough mods available to justify not getting the ZL1. Strictly NA & manual, I’m interested in what’s possible? Kind of a sleeper project with some track days every now and then. Just don’t want to be left for dead everytime a roll race presents.
* intake
* cam
* heads
* E85
* full exhaust

Does a particular shop have a package deal?

Thx for feedback.

[m6-lt1]

There are many shops that have package deals. Look at Katech. There are other really good shops as well. Search these forums and you'll get most of the answers you're looking for.

A FBO E85 Heads and Cam car will dyno around 550 whp +/- 25 whp.

I saw your other posts about getting a ZLE. While some will say a cammed SS 1LE is a better track car due to it running cooler and never pulling timing, a cammed car is going to require extra valve train maintenance especially if you are tracking the car. So pick your poison. If it were me personally I'd stick to your original plan of getting a ZLE but I would look for a stock one instead of a modded one.

[GreyGhost702]

You're correct, there are a ton of parts available for the LT's now, but most are very similar to each other, and means/methods are the arguable quality that separate them. Among the most aggressive cams, apples to apples, power bands are similar, hp/tq peaks are going to be close. All the brands are fairly competitive with each other in terms of pricing, arguably some do it better than others. You can drop a cookie cutter build in your car and run with it, or piece one together.

I suggest setting a goal and building around that goal. But you can pick up the phone and call any of the big vendors and tell them how much power you want to make and how you want to make it and they'll tell you what parts they recommend to make that power.

As far as "keeping up with the Jones'" I highly recommend squashing that thought. Modding a 6 Gen LT is already a black hole. Chasing the Jones' with an LT under the hood you might want to just consider alternative platforms if you just want to be fast. There's always going to be someone faster and/or with more money to spend. NA is more of an obsession these days, by far the least cost effective means of making modified power. Otherwise stock, you can bolt on a D1SC and choose your power level, from just a mild bump to far more than the stock bottom will tolerate. Of course you'll need supporting fuel mods and more the higher you go, but that's true regardless of the platform or path you mod down. Efficiency is relative. For example, a P1SC loses efficiency if you spin it too high or are pushing too much air than the engine can ingest to a level that you need to look at porting and/or a cam. Then you step into a D1SC and regain efficiency at that same level. Then there's the X series, if you really want to live a the top of the power band. The same applies to PD blowers. NA suffers a unique efficiency degradation. Typically, NA trades low power band for higher power band. The most efficient way to increase NA power is through displacement. Though, again, not the most cost effective.

The nice thing about chunking out for a ZL1 right out of the gate, you get a much stronger base to start with and more untapped potential. While a FBO LT1 may keep up with a stock ZL1, a ZL1 on E and tuned will likely still walk away. I probably would've been happy with a ZL1 and done basic bolt ons and tune.

[Driv200]

Spot on gents and very appreciative of the advice. When you know the answers, it’s still good to hear it from forum supporters. I’m liking the ZLE plan with basic easy mods. FBO LT1 on e85 just seems fun…..but in the end….its always behind.

Which brings me to this question. Based on the sound advice above, why not the GT500? I just took a leak at these lastnight and learned a lot. For nearly same money as current ZLE prices, the GT500 is in the ballpark. Other than constant fuel stops, not finding a lot of negatives.

[arpad_m]

Originally Posted by Driv200

Spot on gents and very appreciative of the advice. When you know the answers, it’s still good to hear it from forum supporters. I’m liking the ZLE plan with basic easy mods. FBO LT1 on e85 just seems fun…..but in the end….its always behind.

Which brings me to this question. Based on the sound advice above, why not the GT500? I just took a leak at these lastnight and learned a lot. For nearly same money as current ZLE prices, the GT500 is in the ballpark. Other than constant fuel stops, not finding a lot of negatives.

I don't like Ford either, but taking a leak at them is next level, your astounding brand loyalty is unmatched

[clg82]

Originally Posted by Driv200

Spot on gents and very appreciative of the advice. When you know the answers, it’s still good to hear it from forum supporters. I’m liking the ZLE plan with basic easy mods. FBO LT1 on e85 just seems fun…..but in the end….its always behind.

Which brings me to this question. Based on the sound advice above, why not the GT500? I just took a leak at these lastnight and learned a lot. For nearly same money as current ZLE prices, the GT500 is in the ballpark. Other than constant fuel stops, not finding a lot of negatives.

Where are you finding GT500s priced in the same ballpark as ZL1 1LEs?

[Need4Camaro]

I'm right at 500whp with:
- CAI
- Headers + full exhaust
- E85 Tune
- Stock heads and cam

Granted I have a really good tuner, but I had it dyno'd at two different shops.

[m6-lt1]

Originally Posted by Driv200

Spot on gents and very appreciative of the advice. When you know the answers, it’s still good to hear it from forum supporters. I’m liking the ZLE plan with basic easy mods. FBO LT1 on e85 just seems fun…..but in the end….its always behind.

Which brings me to this question. Based on the sound advice above, why not the GT500? I just took a leak at these lastnight and learned a lot. For nearly same money as current ZLE prices, the GT500 is in the ballpark. Other than constant fuel stops, not finding a lot of negatives.

The GT500’s you see priced close to ZLE’s do not have the CFTP (Carbon fiber track pack). Those one are NOT going to keep up with a ZLE on a road course. You need one with the CFTP to keep up and beat a ZLE on a road course.

Honestly if that car is in your price range it’s an excellent track car but it costs a lot to run one. They are a few hundred lbs heavier than a ZLE. Only reason to go ZLE is cost and a manual.

[FlukeSS]

Originally Posted by Driv200

These cars been out long enough, I’m trying to convince myself there are enough mods available to justify not getting the ZL1. Strictly NA & manual, I’m interested in what’s possible? Kind of a sleeper project with some track days every now and then. Just don’t want to be left for dead everytime a roll race presents.
* intake
* cam
* heads
* E85
* full exhaust

Does a particular shop have a package deal?

Thx for feedback.

Hi! Just thought I'd introduce myself.

Stock Heads though, but probably add another 40-50ish rwhp Which will rival that of any ZL1 or ZLE and still be NA and lighter weight, and cost less than any ZL1 or ZLE. Granted I don't have the 1LE package and there is a torque difference between ZL1/ZLE vs my car, and I do dragrace my car, not track it. And SS variants all have the same cooling systems. The LT1 does not, and I'm not sure about the base ZL1.