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Old 10-11-2023, 06:23 PM   #1
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Manual car dry start to prime oil pump

Been searching all over but see mixed messages. Is there a way crank over the engine with out actually starting it on a manual car. I know with automatics you hold the accelerator down. How about with the manual cars? Ive seen where others remove fuel pump fuses among other things.
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Old 10-11-2023, 06:37 PM   #2
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Screw driver across + and - on the starter terminals like the good all days? Or build a jumper switch
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Old 10-11-2023, 07:04 PM   #3
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I think you’re referring to flood clear. I didn’t remember that being specific to a trans
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Old 10-11-2023, 07:30 PM   #4
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I think you’re referring to flood clear. I didn’t remember that being specific to a trans
Yes. That is what im referring to. Not sure how to activate it with the m6.
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Old 10-12-2023, 07:04 AM   #5
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You mentioned priming the oil pump then commented about floor clearing... What's the situation and end goal?
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Old 10-12-2023, 07:12 AM   #6
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You mentioned priming the oil pump then commented about floor clearing... What's the situation and end goal?
To build oil pressure before turning the engine on by cranking it over for a bit. Applicable situations would be after changing oil or having the car sit for long periods of time. I realize its probably not necessary.
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Old 10-12-2023, 07:18 AM   #7
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Flood clear mode-Hold throttle wide open and push start button. It works, i've tried it
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Old 10-12-2023, 07:23 AM   #8
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To build oil pressure before turning the engine on by cranking it over for a bit. Applicable situations would be after changing oil or having the car sit for long periods of time. I realize its probably not necessary.
I genuinely can't see any issue after an oil change... Tens of thousands of vehicles get oil changes every day and started up afterward with zero issue. Since the car "should" have been run prior to warm up the oil (and promote more draininge), the surfaces of the engine should generally be coated AT LEAST as well as starting your car cold in the morning.

Sitting for longer periods -could- be a more interesting scenario, but I will say that my car always takes a looooong time to crank when I first start it in the spring anyhow. During that time, it's cranking at like 300-400 RPM which would be in line with what you're describing wanting to do.

Lots of people on these forums let their cars sit for weeks and months at a time ("just because" or maybe in winter storage) and I haven't heard of any instance of low oil pressure when they go to start causing any issues. Doesn't mean it can't happen, but there's not really anything in the manual about it...

As far as the "Flood Clear" procedure, you push the accelerator to the floor and hold it there while the engine is cranking. Not sure that would provide any level of assistance for what you're trying to do...
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Old 10-12-2023, 12:49 PM   #9
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And if you change the oil yourself, (always a good idea on a car with the very specific oil requirements, and 10-quart capacity of these cars) you can pre-fill the oil filter as it goes on vertically.
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Old 10-12-2023, 01:02 PM   #10
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And if you change the oil yourself, (always a good idea on a car with the very specific oil requirements, and 10-quart capacity of these cars) you can pre-fill the oil filter as it goes on vertically.
You can, but it's a negligible difference. Oil filter is small and fills very quickly once the engine starts cranking.
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Old 10-12-2023, 01:03 PM   #11
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You're not restoring a 1928 Bugatti, where building oil pressure is absolutely essential on old cars before you start them for the first time because it could take 30 seconds for pressure to build.

But Our Camaros, just like every car made in the last 60 years, gets the oil up to the heads very quickly. Within 2-3 seconds if the temperature is anything above freezing, and maybe 4-5 if it's below freezing and the car has been sitting outside all night or after a fresh oil change.

But don't forget, if you're changing the oil, there's still plenty of residual oil film on all of the vital parts in the head already from the old oil that hasn't dripped down - unless you're going to leave your car on lifts with the drain plug out all night, the valves and springs will still have enough lubricant on them after you refill the oil and restart it to provide adequate protection in that short timeframe.

So I just wonder why you want to do this to begin with? You're not doing anything to help the long term reliability of the engine.
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Old 10-12-2023, 02:26 PM   #12
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You can, but it's a negligible difference. Oil filter is small and fills very quickly once the engine starts cranking.
I concur- just thought it may help the OP feel a little better.
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Old 10-12-2023, 02:31 PM   #13
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This is what I did with my katech...
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Old 10-12-2023, 07:25 PM   #14
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You can, but it's a negligible difference. Oil filter is small and fills very quickly once the engine starts cranking.
I always do. When I do it takes a minute or two to saturate the filter. After the first pour I wait a couple of minutes and it takes about the same amount again to bring it near the top. I have no idea if it makes any difference whatsoever, but it helps me sleep better at night.
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