MGW VS Barton Shifter. - Camaro5 Chevy Camaro Forum / Camaro ZL1, SS and V6 Forums

Joe.G · 07-20-2022, 05:52 AM

Hi, So I have been leaning towards the MGW for a while, But I have been doing research and the Barton seems like a pretty solid choice as well and they are pretty close to me shop wise.

I have not seen much on the Barton in recent posts, I know most will probably say go MGW but was wondering if there were any long term Barton users or maybe people that have installed fairly recently and had any input. Price really is not the issue, Install seems quicker with the Barton and both look nice, MGW does offer different colors where I'd probably have to Powder coat or paint the Barton.

Shift/Performance wise is there much of a difference? I am not confident that I wont miss a shift with the Stock shifter.

CamaroCracka · 07-20-2022, 06:43 AM

I have the Barton, but no experience with the MGW. I have no complaints about the Barton, but the MGW looks more solid. I was modifying the Barton upper shaft to give an even shorter throw and did not like the result. They were kind enough to sell me just that part for around $50, so I felt the service was pretty good.

Joe.G · 07-20-2022, 09:19 PM

I tried to call them a few times today with no luck, I did get someone on the phone once and they said Dave would call me back from Barton but no returned call. The Barton does appear to be a solid choice and I may lean that way if I can get someone on the Phone, Customer service is important to me.

Joe.G · 07-21-2022, 06:15 AM

How Was the Install of the Barton? Did you have to lower the Tranny?

CamaroCracka · 07-21-2022, 06:40 AM

It was years ago, but I think I just dropped the trans crossmember and let it tilt down. That is more to get at those clips etc. I have a Hurst shifter in the vert and the Barton was no different than that when it came to installation.

SIM GhostrdrZ · 07-21-2022, 02:32 PM

MGW
I have one in each of mine

Joe.G · 07-21-2022, 07:40 PM

I Have teh 5.1 Short Throw factory in the car, I don't mind it but Sometimes I just feel like I may miss a shift/go into wrong gear, My Hurst on my 3Rd Gen you know what gear everytime with out question.

SIM GhostrdrZ · 07-21-2022, 08:55 PM

Put it in D and push pedal on the right. Automatics make it easy for some folks.

Joe.G · 07-26-2022, 07:54 PM

Barton Offered to send 1 out for me to be powder coated Black if I wanted 1.

CamaroCracka · 07-27-2022, 12:21 PM

Hard to beat that kind of service, but I've never actually laid hands on an MGW.

Joe.G · 07-27-2022, 08:24 PM

Now I am on the fence about looks, i do Like how the factory shifter looks, I Don't even mind the throw of the shifter I just wish it had a more positive feel for what gear I was choosing.

oldman14ss · 07-28-2022, 03:15 PM

mgw all the way i've had 2 one in my 4th gen and now in my fifth gen. cant get any better. customer service second to none. they make a stalk that fits your shifter handle if thats what you like. the only shifter spring loaded that centers you on third also. no mushy reuse of factory rubber bushings like all the others. cost more possibly, imo best in class

Back In Time · 09-04-2022, 01:33 PM

I took out my stock shifter and installed the Barton. Didn’t drop the trans. Tight fit getting in there but made it work without too many bad words. Great install. Definitely a shorter throw pattern and no issues after a year or so. No experience with MGW. I’d buy Barton again for sure

Joe.G · 09-05-2022, 08:31 AM

I am still on the fence about what which to get, or just keep the stock.

07-20-2022, 05:52 AM	#1
Joe.G Drives: 2014 2SS/RS 6SP Ashen Grey Join Date: Aug 2021 Location: NY Posts: 1,270	MGW VS Barton Shifter. Hi, So I have been leaning towards the MGW for a while, But I have been doing research and the Barton seems like a pretty solid choice as well and they are pretty close to me shop wise. I have not seen much on the Barton in recent posts, I know most will probably say go MGW but was wondering if there were any long term Barton users or maybe people that have installed fairly recently and had any input. Price really is not the issue, Install seems quicker with the Barton and both look nice, MGW does offer different colors where I'd probably have to Powder coat or paint the Barton. Shift/Performance wise is there much of a difference? I am not confident that I wont miss a shift with the Stock shifter. __________________ GM 3.91/TrueTrac OEM ZL1 Rims, Brakes & Side Skirts.ACST4 Splitter/Deflectors NPP M2W,GM Short Throw,Remote Clutch reservoir GPI Ported Rod Mod,BO White PTB,CAI/JRE Scoop, Moroso Catch Can GC Aluminum DS Stainless Works Ceramic LTH/HiFlo Cats SCT X4 Dynosteve, Hotckis 1" Springs & Chassis Max Brace BMR Adjustable Swaybars,Trailing Arms, Adjustable Toe Rod, LCA & Z28 UCA Bushings Hendrix Solid Cradle Bushings Pedders Radius Rod Inserts Strut tower brace Hero Smoked Tail and 3rd Brake Light, Diode Dynamic SL1 Fog Lights AeroForce Dual gauge/Autometer pillar mount.

07-20-2022, 06:43 AM	#2
CamaroCracka Drives: 2010 Turbo LS3 Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Palm Bay, FL Posts: 2,763	I have the Barton, but no experience with the MGW. I have no complaints about the Barton, but the MGW looks more solid. I was modifying the Barton upper shaft to give an even shorter throw and did not like the result. They were kind enough to sell me just that part for around $50, so I felt the service was pretty good. __________________ 2010 SS - On3 kit with downpipe cutout, CTR 78/80, CompCam 239/251 620/632 122+4, E85, Z28 suspension and ZL1 diff with Outlaw axles. Gen6 ZL1/1LE brakes. 2011 Vert - 416/w 230/236 .612/.602 115lsa, 1LE suspension w/32mm rear bar. Z28 diff. ZL1 brakes.

07-20-2022, 09:19 PM	#3
Joe.G Drives: 2014 2SS/RS 6SP Ashen Grey Join Date: Aug 2021 Location: NY Posts: 1,270	I tried to call them a few times today with no luck, I did get someone on the phone once and they said Dave would call me back from Barton but no returned call. The Barton does appear to be a solid choice and I may lean that way if I can get someone on the Phone, Customer service is important to me. __________________ GM 3.91/TrueTrac OEM ZL1 Rims, Brakes & Side Skirts.ACST4 Splitter/Deflectors NPP M2W,GM Short Throw,Remote Clutch reservoir GPI Ported Rod Mod,BO White PTB,CAI/JRE Scoop, Moroso Catch Can GC Aluminum DS Stainless Works Ceramic LTH/HiFlo Cats SCT X4 Dynosteve, Hotckis 1" Springs & Chassis Max Brace BMR Adjustable Swaybars,Trailing Arms, Adjustable Toe Rod, LCA & Z28 UCA Bushings Hendrix Solid Cradle Bushings Pedders Radius Rod Inserts Strut tower brace Hero Smoked Tail and 3rd Brake Light, Diode Dynamic SL1 Fog Lights AeroForce Dual gauge/Autometer pillar mount.

07-21-2022, 06:15 AM	#4
Joe.G Drives: 2014 2SS/RS 6SP Ashen Grey Join Date: Aug 2021 Location: NY Posts: 1,270	How Was the Install of the Barton? Did you have to lower the Tranny? __________________ GM 3.91/TrueTrac OEM ZL1 Rims, Brakes & Side Skirts.ACST4 Splitter/Deflectors NPP M2W,GM Short Throw,Remote Clutch reservoir GPI Ported Rod Mod,BO White PTB,CAI/JRE Scoop, Moroso Catch Can GC Aluminum DS Stainless Works Ceramic LTH/HiFlo Cats SCT X4 Dynosteve, Hotckis 1" Springs & Chassis Max Brace BMR Adjustable Swaybars,Trailing Arms, Adjustable Toe Rod, LCA & Z28 UCA Bushings Hendrix Solid Cradle Bushings Pedders Radius Rod Inserts Strut tower brace Hero Smoked Tail and 3rd Brake Light, Diode Dynamic SL1 Fog Lights AeroForce Dual gauge/Autometer pillar mount.

07-21-2022, 06:40 AM	#5
CamaroCracka Drives: 2010 Turbo LS3 Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Palm Bay, FL Posts: 2,763	It was years ago, but I think I just dropped the trans crossmember and let it tilt down. That is more to get at those clips etc. I have a Hurst shifter in the vert and the Barton was no different than that when it came to installation. __________________ 2010 SS - On3 kit with downpipe cutout, CTR 78/80, CompCam 239/251 620/632 122+4, E85, Z28 suspension and ZL1 diff with Outlaw axles. Gen6 ZL1/1LE brakes. 2011 Vert - 416/w 230/236 .612/.602 115lsa, 1LE suspension w/32mm rear bar. Z28 diff. ZL1 brakes.

07-21-2022, 02:32 PM	#6
SIM GhostrdrZ Drives: ‘14 ZL1 M6 vert Join Date: Jul 2015 Location: Ohio Posts: 1,292 View My Garage	MGW I have one in each of mine

07-21-2022, 07:40 PM	#7
Joe.G Drives: 2014 2SS/RS 6SP Ashen Grey Join Date: Aug 2021 Location: NY Posts: 1,270	I Have teh 5.1 Short Throw factory in the car, I don't mind it but Sometimes I just feel like I may miss a shift/go into wrong gear, My Hurst on my 3Rd Gen you know what gear everytime with out question. __________________ GM 3.91/TrueTrac OEM ZL1 Rims, Brakes & Side Skirts.ACST4 Splitter/Deflectors NPP M2W,GM Short Throw,Remote Clutch reservoir GPI Ported Rod Mod,BO White PTB,CAI/JRE Scoop, Moroso Catch Can GC Aluminum DS Stainless Works Ceramic LTH/HiFlo Cats SCT X4 Dynosteve, Hotckis 1" Springs & Chassis Max Brace BMR Adjustable Swaybars,Trailing Arms, Adjustable Toe Rod, LCA & Z28 UCA Bushings Hendrix Solid Cradle Bushings Pedders Radius Rod Inserts Strut tower brace Hero Smoked Tail and 3rd Brake Light, Diode Dynamic SL1 Fog Lights AeroForce Dual gauge/Autometer pillar mount.

07-21-2022, 08:55 PM	#8
SIM GhostrdrZ Drives: ‘14 ZL1 M6 vert Join Date: Jul 2015 Location: Ohio Posts: 1,292 View My Garage	Put it in D and push pedal on the right. Automatics make it easy for some folks.

07-26-2022, 07:54 PM	#9
Joe.G Drives: 2014 2SS/RS 6SP Ashen Grey Join Date: Aug 2021 Location: NY Posts: 1,270	Barton Offered to send 1 out for me to be powder coated Black if I wanted 1. __________________ GM 3.91/TrueTrac OEM ZL1 Rims, Brakes & Side Skirts.ACST4 Splitter/Deflectors NPP M2W,GM Short Throw,Remote Clutch reservoir GPI Ported Rod Mod,BO White PTB,CAI/JRE Scoop, Moroso Catch Can GC Aluminum DS Stainless Works Ceramic LTH/HiFlo Cats SCT X4 Dynosteve, Hotckis 1" Springs & Chassis Max Brace BMR Adjustable Swaybars,Trailing Arms, Adjustable Toe Rod, LCA & Z28 UCA Bushings Hendrix Solid Cradle Bushings Pedders Radius Rod Inserts Strut tower brace Hero Smoked Tail and 3rd Brake Light, Diode Dynamic SL1 Fog Lights AeroForce Dual gauge/Autometer pillar mount.

07-27-2022, 12:21 PM	#10
CamaroCracka Drives: 2010 Turbo LS3 Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Palm Bay, FL Posts: 2,763	Hard to beat that kind of service, but I've never actually laid hands on an MGW. __________________ 2010 SS - On3 kit with downpipe cutout, CTR 78/80, CompCam 239/251 620/632 122+4, E85, Z28 suspension and ZL1 diff with Outlaw axles. Gen6 ZL1/1LE brakes. 2011 Vert - 416/w 230/236 .612/.602 115lsa, 1LE suspension w/32mm rear bar. Z28 diff. ZL1 brakes.

07-27-2022, 08:24 PM	#11
Joe.G Drives: 2014 2SS/RS 6SP Ashen Grey Join Date: Aug 2021 Location: NY Posts: 1,270	Now I am on the fence about looks, i do Like how the factory shifter looks, I Don't even mind the throw of the shifter I just wish it had a more positive feel for what gear I was choosing. __________________ GM 3.91/TrueTrac OEM ZL1 Rims, Brakes & Side Skirts.ACST4 Splitter/Deflectors NPP M2W,GM Short Throw,Remote Clutch reservoir GPI Ported Rod Mod,BO White PTB,CAI/JRE Scoop, Moroso Catch Can GC Aluminum DS Stainless Works Ceramic LTH/HiFlo Cats SCT X4 Dynosteve, Hotckis 1" Springs & Chassis Max Brace BMR Adjustable Swaybars,Trailing Arms, Adjustable Toe Rod, LCA & Z28 UCA Bushings Hendrix Solid Cradle Bushings Pedders Radius Rod Inserts Strut tower brace Hero Smoked Tail and 3rd Brake Light, Diode Dynamic SL1 Fog Lights AeroForce Dual gauge/Autometer pillar mount.

07-28-2022, 03:15 PM	#12
oldman14ss Drives: 2014 1ss camaro Join Date: Jul 2017 Location: missouri Posts: 705	mgw all the way i've had 2 one in my 4th gen and now in my fifth gen. cant get any better. customer service second to none. they make a stalk that fits your shifter handle if thats what you like. the only shifter spring loaded that centers you on third also. no mushy reuse of factory rubber bushings like all the others. cost more possibly, imo best in class

09-04-2022, 01:33 PM	#13
Back In Time Drives: ‘10 1SS RS aqua blue metallic. Join Date: Mar 2020 Location: St Louis area Posts: 36 View My Garage	I took out my stock shifter and installed the Barton. Didn’t drop the trans. Tight fit getting in there but made it work without too many bad words. Great install. Definitely a shorter throw pattern and no issues after a year or so. No experience with MGW. I’d buy Barton again for sure __________________ 2010 1SS RS LS 3. Aqua blue metallic.

09-05-2022, 08:31 AM	#14
Joe.G Drives: 2014 2SS/RS 6SP Ashen Grey Join Date: Aug 2021 Location: NY Posts: 1,270	I am still on the fence about what which to get, or just keep the stock. __________________ GM 3.91/TrueTrac OEM ZL1 Rims, Brakes & Side Skirts.ACST4 Splitter/Deflectors NPP M2W,GM Short Throw,Remote Clutch reservoir GPI Ported Rod Mod,BO White PTB,CAI/JRE Scoop, Moroso Catch Can GC Aluminum DS Stainless Works Ceramic LTH/HiFlo Cats SCT X4 Dynosteve, Hotckis 1" Springs & Chassis Max Brace BMR Adjustable Swaybars,Trailing Arms, Adjustable Toe Rod, LCA & Z28 UCA Bushings Hendrix Solid Cradle Bushings Pedders Radius Rod Inserts Strut tower brace Hero Smoked Tail and 3rd Brake Light, Diode Dynamic SL1 Fog Lights AeroForce Dual gauge/Autometer pillar mount.