2017 SS 1le Procharger 700+ rwhp

slowlypullin · 03-31-2018, 10:23 AM

I found a shop in Georgia that claims to have made 761 rwhp on a stock bottom end 2017 SS 1le. The mods they claim are the following:
MSD intake
Procharger P1X stage 2
TSP Cam with 32% fuel lobe
Pushrod Trunion upgrade
They claim to have done this on 93 octane with a stock fuel system. Is anyone else getting close to this numbers?

JANNETTYRACING · 03-31-2018, 10:29 AM

Fake News

The stock LT-1 fuel system even with a cam will not support those numbers.

Stock LT4 fuel system Yes.

Or with Meth injection Yes.

Ted.

boostednut · 03-31-2018, 11:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JANNETTYRACING

Fake News

The stock LT-1 fuel system even with a cam will not support those numbers.

Stock LT4 fuel system Yes.

Or with Meth injection Yes.

Ted.

What ted's saying is....
The dyno operator made those numbers

That way you hopefully give them some $$

Probably in the 600's realistically

ShizzySupra · 03-31-2018, 12:37 PM

Its Rollins Performance. They say 737whp SAE on 9 psi no meth, stock bottom end, stock fuel just a cam. 1LE car.

cheeze9878 · 03-31-2018, 01:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by slowlypullin

I found a shop in Georgia that claims to have made 761 rwhp on a stock bottom end 2017 SS 1le. The mods they claim are the following:
MSD intake
Procharger P1X stage 2
TSP Cam with 32% fuel lobe
Pushrod Trunion upgrade
They claim to have done this on 93 octane with a stock fuel system. Is anyone else getting close to this numbers?

Ive seen a few of these already. usually around 710 - 720

USAFS197 · 03-31-2018, 08:54 PM

Actually, the shop is in Gainesville, Florida and they just claimed the exact same thing. I questioned them about it but, they stuck to their guns.

Not sure if this post will work or not.

Hmm, the post didn't work but, I'll list off their mods and what they said.

"Turn the volume up and check out this 2018 Camaro SS 1LE laying down 761 WHP 648 WTQ! Texas Speed VVT-2 Cam Pachage, MSD Intake, Bolts Ons, And A ProCharger all built by Rollins Automotive Speed and Custom in Gainesville Florida!"

My line of questioning...

Me: What fuel upgrades were done? Did they also do drop-in pistons?

Them: Stock bottom end. 32% fuel lobe and lash cap. Stock pumps, rails, etc.

Someone else: Does it have meth?

Them: 93 pump gas no meth. Very conservative tune with only 11 degrees of timing

Me: I have to admit that I’m confused. I’ve watched these new LT1’s getting built that have required extensive fuel upgrades and/or drop in pistons to make anywhere near this power—which usually makes boosting them a bit cost prohibitive. This includes some of the most reputable shops that work on LS/LT cars in the country. I’m not saying that you guys are withholding information but, this is very surprising.

I’m cautiously interested.

After that, they stopped responding to me.

laynlo15 · 03-31-2018, 11:30 PM

I'm just almost out of fuel at 703 with 50/50 meth/water, Lingenfelter big bore pump, lt4 injectors. Much above that is questionable.

boostednut · 04-01-2018, 07:00 AM

Here's how you solve the problem and figure out if it's BS or not.

Ask for a trap speed.

laynlo15 · 04-01-2018, 08:04 AM

That's what I did.

USAFS197 · 04-01-2018, 09:39 AM

Trap speed may be completely irrelevant if the owner doesn't drag race their car. I know my car will never see a drag strip--even if it was next door to my house.

wnta1ss · 04-01-2018, 09:52 AM

Pretty far-fetched claim they are making.

They claim stock pumps,rails,etc: as a 1LE car it SHOULD have the LT4 in-tank (low pressure) fuel pump, and the normal LT1 high pressure fuel pump, which they are overdriving with a +32% cam lobe. The injectors must be included in the 'etc' which means claimed stock LT1.

The chances of putting enough fuel for a supercharged car (crank drag=must burn alot of fuel to get good rear wheel hp) to make 761rwhp, through those little LT1 injectors in the short timespan that is available in a DI engine (pulse width) is not very good.

wnta1ss · 04-01-2018, 10:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by USAFS197

Trap speed may be completely irrelevant if the owner doesn't drag race their car. I know my car will never see a drag strip--even if it was next door to my house.

Trap speed gives a good idea on power-to-weight ratio, which will therefore give a good idea if the horsepower claimed is anywhere near being true. That is why they are wondering.

WhiteNight · 04-01-2018, 12:30 PM

Maybe they are running at 100% duty cycle with a side of a prayer.

boostednut · 04-02-2018, 01:54 AM

What dyno are they using? Also have you seen any graphs of other cars you might be able to compare on?

03-31-2018, 10:23 AM	#1
slowlypullin Drives: 2017 Camaro SS 1LE Join Date: Apr 2017 Location: Houston Posts: 61	2017 SS 1le Procharger 700+ rwhp I found a shop in Georgia that claims to have made 761 rwhp on a stock bottom end 2017 SS 1le. The mods they claim are the following: MSD intake Procharger P1X stage 2 TSP Cam with 32% fuel lobe Pushrod Trunion upgrade They claim to have done this on 93 octane with a stock fuel system. Is anyone else getting close to this numbers?

03-31-2018, 10:29 AM	#2
JANNETTYRACING Drives: BLUE CAMARO ZL1 1LE M6 Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: ON THE DYNO WATERBURY CT. Posts: 15,415	Fake News The stock LT-1 fuel system even with a cam will not support those numbers. Stock LT4 fuel system Yes. Or with Meth injection Yes. Ted. __________________ www.jannettyracing.com Celebrating 39 years Performance parts, Installation, Fabrication, Dyno tuning, Remote custom tuning, and alignments. 203-753-7223 Waterbury CT. 06705 email tedj@jannettyracing.com

03-31-2018, 12:37 PM	#4
ShizzySupra Drives: 16' Camaro 2SS Join Date: Sep 2015 Location: Oregon Posts: 381	Its Rollins Performance. They say 737whp SAE on 9 psi no meth, stock bottom end, stock fuel just a cam. 1LE car. __________________ @DeathWatchCamaro on Insta 993whp Magnuson 2.3R 9.5 @ 145, Magnuson 2300, Full Weight 2SS, 17’s (810whp)

03-31-2018, 08:54 PM	#6
USAFS197 Drives: 2018 Audi TT RS Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: Navarre, Florida Posts: 1,915	Actually, the shop is in Gainesville, Florida and they just claimed the exact same thing. I questioned them about it but, they stuck to their guns. Not sure if this post will work or not. Hmm, the post didn't work but, I'll list off their mods and what they said. "Turn the volume up and check out this 2018 Camaro SS 1LE laying down 761 WHP 648 WTQ! Texas Speed VVT-2 Cam Pachage, MSD Intake, Bolts Ons, And A ProCharger all built by Rollins Automotive Speed and Custom in Gainesville Florida!" My line of questioning... Me: What fuel upgrades were done? Did they also do drop-in pistons? Them: Stock bottom end. 32% fuel lobe and lash cap. Stock pumps, rails, etc. Someone else: Does it have meth? Them: 93 pump gas no meth. Very conservative tune with only 11 degrees of timing Me: I have to admit that I’m confused. I’ve watched these new LT1’s getting built that have required extensive fuel upgrades and/or drop in pistons to make anywhere near this power—which usually makes boosting them a bit cost prohibitive. This includes some of the most reputable shops that work on LS/LT cars in the country. I’m not saying that you guys are withholding information but, this is very surprising. I’m cautiously interested. After that, they stopped responding to me. __________________ 2018 Audi TT ▊RS 2.4X 0-60, 1.6X 60', 120+mph 1/8th, 4.XX 60-130, 150+mph traps on 255/35/18 R888R tires on the street (unprepped). 2019 Audi RS3 About as fast as the TT RS 2019 Camaro ZL1 1LE Sold 2018 Camaro SS 1LE Sold 2019 Corvette Z06 Sold 2021 Charger Hellcat Redeye Widebody Sold Last edited by USAFS197; 03-31-2018 at 09:36 PM.

04-01-2018, 09:39 AM	#10
USAFS197 Drives: 2018 Audi TT RS Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: Navarre, Florida Posts: 1,915	Trap speed may be completely irrelevant if the owner doesn't drag race their car. I know my car will never see a drag strip--even if it was next door to my house. __________________ 2018 Audi TT ▊RS 2.4X 0-60, 1.6X 60', 120+mph 1/8th, 4.XX 60-130, 150+mph traps on 255/35/18 R888R tires on the street (unprepped). 2019 Audi RS3 About as fast as the TT RS 2019 Camaro ZL1 1LE Sold 2018 Camaro SS 1LE Sold 2019 Corvette Z06 Sold 2021 Charger Hellcat Redeye Widebody Sold

03-31-2018, 11:30 PM	#7
laynlo15 Drives: 2022 Lt1 A10 Join Date: Nov 2015 Location: clark, mo Posts: 8,882	I'm just almost out of fuel at 703 with 50/50 meth/water, Lingenfelter big bore pump, lt4 injectors. Much above that is questionable.

04-01-2018, 07:00 AM	#8
boostednut Drives: Nothing cool atm Join Date: Aug 2017 Location: California Posts: 138	Here's how you solve the problem and figure out if it's BS or not. Ask for a trap speed.

04-01-2018, 08:04 AM	#9
laynlo15 Drives: 2022 Lt1 A10 Join Date: Nov 2015 Location: clark, mo Posts: 8,882	That's what I did.

04-01-2018, 09:52 AM	#11
wnta1ss Drives: 2017 Camaro 1SS Join Date: Aug 2016 Location: NH Posts: 1,713	Pretty far-fetched claim they are making. They claim stock pumps,rails,etc: as a 1LE car it SHOULD have the LT4 in-tank (low pressure) fuel pump, and the normal LT1 high pressure fuel pump, which they are overdriving with a +32% cam lobe. The injectors must be included in the 'etc' which means claimed stock LT1. The chances of putting enough fuel for a supercharged car (crank drag=must burn alot of fuel to get good rear wheel hp) to make 761rwhp, through those little LT1 injectors in the short timespan that is available in a DI engine (pulse width) is not very good.

04-01-2018, 12:30 PM	#13
WhiteNight Drives: MB 1SS Join Date: May 2017 Location: Easton, PA Posts: 321	Maybe they are running at 100% duty cycle with a side of a prayer.

04-02-2018, 01:54 AM	#14
boostednut Drives: Nothing cool atm Join Date: Aug 2017 Location: California Posts: 138	What dyno are they using? Also have you seen any graphs of other cars you might be able to compare on?

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