[Bob77]

Looking at these two Camaros. My original idea was to wait for the 2017 ZL1 but I'm hearing the price starts at $65,000, or I can spend $45,000 now and add mods to get the HP up to at least 500 HP. The 2016 SS stock is 455 HP, am I right? What do you guys think? The 2017 ZL1 will be a beast and I'm not so sure I will need 640 HP!

2016 Gray SS

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Chevrolet-Ca...m=162042571587

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2016 BLUE SS

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Chevrolet-Ca...m=111926926108

[Waiting46]

Remember no one *needs* 640 hp, but the zl1 wont be available for another 6+ months, and pricing is still only a guess

[Fraxum]

You don't even need 455 Hp.

Big power is a waste on the street anyway. Been there done that.

Also you cannot build a ZL1 for less than the price of a ZL1. I built an SS and I owned a ZL1.

[pete1077]

Originally Posted by Bob77

Looking at these two Camaros. My original idea was to wait for the 2017 ZL1 but I'm hearing the price starts at $65,000, or I can spend $45,000 now and add mods to get the HP up to at least 500 HP. The 2016 SS stock is 455 HP, am I right? What do you guys think? The 2017 ZL1 will be a beast and I'm not so sure I will need 640 HP!

2016 Gray SS

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Chevrolet-Ca...m=162042571587

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2016 BLUE SS

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Chevrolet-Ca...m=111926926108

Looks like they are just listing them for sticker price. You can easily negotiate a better deal.

[pete1077]

The 2nd one seems to be listed for sticker price. The first one has $2000 taken off sticker.

[Pezbot]

The dealers here cant sell them, you could probably get a pretty good deal if you were really interested XD

[Bob77]

Originally Posted by Fraxum

You cannot build a ZL1 for less than the price of a ZL1. I built an SS and I owned a ZL1.

Thanks for commenting but I don't understand you 100%. Alright- so you've owned a few Camaros, the SS and ZL1. What do you advise? Buy the SS now or wait for the monster ZL1? I'm guessing with a 2016 SS, a few tasteful low key mods like headers and I can be around 500 HP? Thanks for your help. I'm leaning towards the SS. I really like the 2016 gray and blue SS. Thanks again folks.

[Bob77]

Sorry, I'm a old Camaro enthusiast but new to the 6th Gens. Question: Are both Camaros 2SS models? The 2SS is the top of the line SS right? I suppose if I were to rank the Camaros from best to last, it would be ....

1/ Camaro ZL1
2/ Camaro Z/28
3/ Camaro 2SS
4/ Camaro 1SS
5/ Camaro V6

[MNrunner]

From what I have seen through my research is that you can do much better than $2k off MSRP. There is a dealer near you that advertises very low prices on in-stock Camaros but has a high dealer fee ($895) and not great Yelp reviews. Might be worth looking into for giving you another benchmark on pricing - Bomnin Chevrolet.

[Waiting46]

Originally Posted by Bob77

Sorry, I'm a old Camaro enthusiast but new to the 6th Gens. Question: Are both Camaros 2SS models? The 2SS is the top of the line SS right? I suppose if I were to rank the Camaros from best to last, it would be ....

1/ Camaro ZL1
2/ Camaro Z/28
3/ Camaro 2SS
4/ Camaro 1SS
5/ Camaro V6

Thats a complicated question now, it depends on what you want

2017 ZL1 -- Hi-po Grand Touring
2017 2SS -- Less Hi-Po Grand Touring
2017 1LE/1SS -- Track rat Camaro with some upscale interior elements/tech
2017 1SS -- Less Hi-Po with less technology
2017 2LT/RS -- "low" performance with upscale interior (v6 or T4, personal choice, each has its benefits)
2017 1LT/RS -- "low" performance with nice exterior, and its a Camaro
2017 2LT -- its a Camaro with some nice tech bits
2017 1LT -- its a Camaro
2018(?) Z/28(?) -- (likely) ultimate Camaro track monster
2017 CoPo -- Fast in a straight line, not road legal

Feel free to correct me if Im wrong

[formoutofchaos]

the 2016 455 hp almost runs the same time as the 580 hp zl1 5th gen so don't worry about numbers, and yes i don't think those deals are that great.

[Capisce]

Originally Posted by MNrunner

From what I have seen through my research is that you can do much better than $2k off MSRP. There is a dealer near you that advertises very low prices on in-stock Camaros but has a high dealer fee ($895) and not great Yelp reviews. Might be worth looking into for giving you another benchmark on pricing - Bomnin Chevrolet.

I screwed up and while I got an agreed price on the car which was a good deal, I did not make them calculate the out the door price when I ordered. I'm thinking I'm going to get hit with a dealer fee that i did not know about when I go to pick up and I dont know if I really have much power to make them drop it. I'm not going to order another car now...

[R3DLT1]

Originally Posted by Bob77

Sorry, I'm a old Camaro enthusiast but new to the 6th Gens. Question: Are both Camaros 2SS models? The 2SS is the top of the line SS right? I suppose if I were to rank the Camaros from best to last, it would be ....

1/ Camaro ZL1
2/ Camaro Z/28
3/ Camaro 2SS
4/ Camaro 1SS
5/ Camaro V6

2ss comes with more bells and whistles ( leather , Heads up display, cooling seats and heated seats and i'm sure i'm missing other little things)

[Bob77]

Originally Posted by formoutofchaos

The 2016 455 hp almost runs the same time as the 580 hp zl1 5th gen so don't worry about numbers, and yes i don't think those deals are that great.

Thanks ... If I buy the 2016 2SS and add Headers and Open Air mod and a few other mods, what HP can I see, without going crazy and keeping the exhaust tone under control? 455 is stock HP... Could I see 500 HP? Also, you guys that ave automatics, any regrets to manual?

Thanks.