[GTIanZ28]

Everyone is going wild about the SS vs GT PP comparisons.

I think some of the most drastic comparisons between the gen 6 Camaro and Mustang lie within the volume sellers.

I really want to see a head to head with these two cars - hopefully we'll see a video review and some magazine comparisons. Camaro V6 with sharper handling and a little less weight vs the ecoboost with more torque and the "performance pack". The base mustang V6 is neutered and can't really be optioned out at all. It is essentially the rental car mustang. This leaves the ecoboost facing off with both the turbo 4 and V6 Camaro. Given that these are the volume sellers the way these cars match up may be far more telling about which brand will end up being most successful.

How will they matchup?

This is not an upgrade/bolt-on discussion. Stock vs stock.

Camaro V6:
base weight = 3435 lbs
335 hp / 285 tq
0-60 auto = 5.1
1/4 auto = 13.5 @ 103 mph
0-60 manual = 5.2
1/4 manual = 13.7 @ 102 mph
.89g skidpad
60-0 braking = 124 ft (likely not brembo brakes)

Mustang Ecoboost PP
base weight = 3524 lbs
310 hp / 320 tq
0-60 manual = 5.6
1/4 manual = 14.1 @ 98 mph
.96g skidpad
60-0 braking = 106 ft.

Reading articles I think the skidpad numbers may not tell the whole story. The PP mustang has much better tires which would also help with the braking numbers.

[EE7]

I believe the 2.0T numbers are just as good if not better than the ecoboost stang too.

[KMPrenger]

I am very much looking forward to this comparison. I think it will be close. The V6 should be able to take EB in a straight line, but I will be very curious to see how the two are compared in road manners and track manners. I think it could be close. Now if the EB isn't fitted with the PP package, the Camaro should walk away from it without much problem in the straights and on the track.

Lets not forget the 2.0 Turbo though! There is a thread on the Mustang6G site where the question was raised....2.0 Camaro versus EB. Of course the vast majority think the EB is faster....but I think they could be in for a rude awakening. The 2.0 is rated at a 5.4 0 - 60 and 14 flat in the 1/4 mile. If those numbers can hold up, that will put it right on par, if not a tick faster than the EB.

I think Ford is going to be upping the power of the EB for 2017 or 2018 model year. Something close to, or match the output of the Focus RS.

[crysalis_01]

Getting the 2.3 to the RS's output is a slightly larger turbo and a different headcasting.

Not an impossible task, but it may be more than Ford will want to do short of a full refresh,,as opposed to the likely MCE we'll see in the '17 model year.

They are working on something though. A mile was spotted with the type of exhaust you see when emmissions testing is being done.

I posted a link somewhere, but i forget where.

[Cuda7050]

I know once you mod it, performance is just a matter of how much do you want to spend. But the Eco boost with only a few bolt ons and tune is putting up some impressive numbers. Could be a great sleeper.

[Brad.]

IDK how relevant this will be, but here is a 2015 Eco Non-PP vs 2015 Camaro RS. Both automatic.

https://www.facebook.com/julio.valad...7423135540108/

(Not my video)

[KMPrenger]

Originally Posted by Brad.

IDK how relevant this will be, but here is a 2015 Eco Non-PP vs 2015 Camaro RS. Both automatic.

https://www.facebook.com/julio.valad...7423135540108/

(Not my video)

I know it just makes me look like a Camaro fanboy since the Camaro lost, but this video is not really relevant for a few reasons.

1) The 2016 Camaro V6 is just plain faster than the 2015. Low 5 second 0-60 car versus a high 5 second or 6 flat car.

2) Sure sounded like the V6 Camaro spun its wheels pretty good on that launch, but can't say for sure. Sounded like the Camaro had the aftermarket exhaust to me or a muffler delete with as loud and raspy it was...otherwise that EB aint' stock.

[ilirg]

Originally Posted by Brad.

IDK how relevant this will be, but here is a 2015 Eco Non-PP vs 2015 Camaro RS. Both automatic.

https://www.facebook.com/julio.valad...7423135540108/

(Not my video)

Pretty much zero relevance

[GTIanZ28]

Originally Posted by KMPrenger

1) The 2016 Camaro V6 is just plain faster than the 2015. Low 5 second 0-60 car versus a high 5 second or 6 flat car.

3.6L V-6
335 hp / 284 lb-ft
3,435 lbs (auto)
10.3 lbs/hp
294 pounds lighter
12% lbs/hp improvement

the 2015 camaro:
323 hp / 278 lb-ft
3,729 lbs (auto)
11.5 lbs/hp

Yes, definitely faster. And, much better handling with the new chassis & weight loss. Magazine and video testing please! I'm happy with some of the initial reviews and the car has already generated a lot of praise.

I wanna see this car vs the 370Z and whatever other rwd cars they want to throw at it. Unfortunately, I think we are going to be left in the dark a bit as all the hoopla is going to be for the big boys.

[SuperSound]

Think it's worth mentioning the EB PP handling may not be all the numbers are showing. Look at the VW GTI's numbers from MT. The GTI is below the EB PP numbers in every field but still won on the C/D's Lightning Lap.

http://www.motortrend.com/oftheyear/...olf_specs.html

I'd really like to see times on VIR for the 6th Gen V6.

[NASTY99Z28]

Stock the v6 will be quicker and to bring up a 5th gen v6 is pointless. We all now its heavier with less power. The new v6 is much better on everyway. Now once you start modding the ecoboost will quickly run away from the v6. Hell full bolton eco4's and some good fuel will hurt alot of v8 feelings.

[SuperSound]

Originally Posted by NASTY99Z28

Hell full bolton eco4's and some good fuel will hurt alot of v8 feelings.

And their ears!


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