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Rotofab Filter vs Green Filter 2382 hptuner log results
I noticed that my Rotofab dry filter was a little dirty and was going to order a replacement filter, but the filters are now over $100. I took the rotofab filter out, cleaned and ordered the Green filter 2382, and logged them in HPtuners.
The rotofab recorded high MAF (SAE) and was around 1 lb/min higher across WOT pulls. The Green filter had a higher Volumetric Efficiency by 15-25 across the WOT pull. Rotofab filter peak 54 lb/min, peak 3030 VE Green Filter peak 53 lb/min peak, 3050 VE Which do you think is better? I can post logs if it helps.
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Maybe the maf is reading differently with the way it flows over the element between the two filters.
The MAP is see things equally. Not really sure
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A difference of 20VE and 1 lb/min is within the error range of repeatability in my opinion.
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I tested it again, back to back, one filter 1st, then let it cool and swap. Then, the following day, start with the opposite filter run, let it cool for 5 minutes, and rerun it. It's almost identical results. Rotofab=higher MAF by a little over 1lb/min, but lower VE by 15-25 across the pull and peak. KPA's are slightly higher with the green filter at higher RPMs (rotofab dips to 97.4 at 6600-6800rpm, green dips to 97.6 at 6600-6800rpm). I also try posting the logs, but .hpl is an invalid file. If someone knows how to post them, I can post if it helps.
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Old car 2016 M6 SS - MSD intake, Rotofab, 2" ARH headers with cats, E85 with EFI Tuning. Best ET: 11.7@122mph |
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Then I'd say the Rotofab wins, but I still think you're talking 10hp or less.
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Just go run it on a dragy both ways.
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Sounds good. Swapping back to the rotofab dry filter.
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2022 Vivid Orange M6 LT1 - 2" ARH headers with cats (full system), 3" ARH Pure Thunder mufflers, ported MSD intake, Soler 95mm tb, Rotofab CAI, E85 flex fuel, tuned by Jason@snackbartuning
Old car 2016 M6 SS - MSD intake, Rotofab, 2" ARH headers with cats, E85 with EFI Tuning. Best ET: 11.7@122mph |
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MAF vs VVE: I would go with MAF results. Why? VVE is the theoretical air your engine is using. VVE is dependent upon your tune, in how well the VVE is correlated to different pressure ratio points of the engine, taking into account cam angle and various other sensor inputs (i.e. "manifold temp" that is derived from the IAT). With MAF, even if your MAF isn't 100% dialed-in for your car, as long as you are comparing on the same MAF and MAF tune (i.e. same measuring device), you will be looking at the measured mas-rate of air coming into the engine. Also, like said, with results in single digits like that, you are within error of variables.
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