Not driving enough? Wth

Itethai · 03-06-2025, 11:33 AM

Have a ‘23 SS vert with 2700 miles on it that I got 2 years ago exactly. Starting to play the find the issue of ‘why it doesn’t start after it gets hot’, but starts after about 15 minutes of sitting’ game with my local dealership once again. Foreman now telling me that I don’t drive it enough. Is this guy just a dumbass or is there something to that? In all of my fifty or so years tinkering with cars, Ive never heard something like this.
Thanks in advance for replies.

closs2sx · 03-06-2025, 10:26 PM

i have 2300 on my 18 zl1 1le and do not have that issue

bishopts · 03-06-2025, 10:28 PM

seems like a key issue

arpad_m · 03-06-2025, 11:05 PM

Instead of listening to that foreman, check out this thread: https://www.camaro6.com/forums/showthread.php?t=586153

JoeCamaro444 · 03-06-2025, 11:15 PM

I have approximately 1800 miles on my 2018 Hot Wheels 2SS, and never have any issues like yours. It sounds like they’re lost, and trying to pass the buck on figuring it out for you. Best of luck on this!

cgdelena · 03-07-2025, 12:10 AM

My son had the same problem with his Traverse. Turned out to be a starter with heat problems and the problem was completely solved with a new starter.

2SS Capt · 03-07-2025, 12:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Itethai

Have a ‘23 SS vert with 2700 miles on it that I got 2 years ago exactly. Starting to play the find the issue of ‘why it doesn’t start after it gets hot’, but starts after about 15 minutes of sitting’ game with my local dealership once again. Foreman now telling me that I don’t drive it enough. Is this guy just a dumbass or is there something to that? In all of my fifty or so years tinkering with cars, Ive never heard something like this.
Thanks in advance for replies.

https://www.camaro6.com/forums/showp...&postcount=212

JohnE · 03-07-2025, 12:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Itethai

Have a ‘23 SS vert with 2700 miles on it that I got 2 years ago exactly. Starting to play the find the issue of ‘why it doesn’t start after it gets hot’, but starts after about 15 minutes of sitting’ game with my local dealership once again. Foreman now telling me that I don’t drive it enough. Is this guy just a dumbass or is there something to that? In all of my fifty or so years tinkering with cars, Ive never heard something like this.
Thanks in advance for replies.

I own a 2016 SS. I ended up buying the following off amazon and then hooked it up to the water pump bolt:

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0BGRX8VY9

I bought a longer bolt and a nut and washer and it 100% fixed my issue. Took me about 20 mins to install. Apparently this same issue existed on the gen5 Camaro's as well. I was under the impression that the newer Camaro's didn't have this problem, that it was more common in the early Gen6 V8's.

Warrior102 · 03-07-2025, 05:27 AM

Follow the links provided it's a well known issue with a $15 fix.

Itethai · 03-07-2025, 10:59 AM

Yep, the dealership is trying to deny its heat soaking issues last year. The only way they would look at the issue is if it could be replicated at the dealership “per GM”. Took there five times and couldn’t replicate , sixth time finally didn’t start at the dealership. They changed the battery after having my car for two days. That’s why I mentioned about having to play their game again.

Itethai · 03-07-2025, 11:04 AM

It’s not a slow crank, all I hear is a relay click under the hood and nothing.

Rnovrit · 03-07-2025, 12:01 PM

Starter issue like posted already. These cars are notorious for hot start problems. Adding the ground cable will help for sure. In some cases the slow crank over time damages the starter due to excessive amperage draw. My suggestion would be replace the starter and add an additional ground strap/wire from the engine to chassis. Some guys add the wire on the front area of the engine like already described. Others, including myself, added the wire from the bell housing area near the starter to an existing ground stud above and to the passenger side of the transmission under the car.

Abubaca · 03-07-2025, 03:28 PM

With regard to adding an additional ground, I'd always add it in a place that others have already done without issue. I know the Silverado's have issues with certain sensors NOT reading voltage properly when people have added grounds in the wrongs spots. I guess some factory grounds will actually ground THROUGH a sensor. A new ground provides a new path for electricity to flow though. LOTS of people on the truck forums will tell you BETTER grounds not MORE grounds.

Not sure if that's a Camaro thing, BUT....can't hurt to be mindful of that.

Dynamical · 03-07-2025, 04:55 PM

"don’t drive it enough" Sounds like he's just making fun of the situation because of the low miles you have. So yeah, it's stupid.

I didn't realize the newer cars had this issue with the starter. I thought that was the older 6gens. If that was my car, I would be adding a ground wire just like the other dudes have had to do. If that fixes it then great. If not, I would look to see if powermaster makes an LT1 starter.

No starting issues yet (knock on wood) on my 22 with 10-11k miles on it.

03-06-2025, 11:33 AM	#1
Itethai Drives: ‘23 SS M6 vert Join Date: Nov 2022 Location: Hill Country, Texas Posts: 27	Not driving enough? Wth Have a ‘23 SS vert with 2700 miles on it that I got 2 years ago exactly. Starting to play the find the issue of ‘why it doesn’t start after it gets hot’, but starts after about 15 minutes of sitting’ game with my local dealership once again. Foreman now telling me that I don’t drive it enough. Is this guy just a dumbass or is there something to that? In all of my fifty or so years tinkering with cars, Ive never heard something like this. Thanks in advance for replies.

03-06-2025, 10:26 PM	#2
closs2sx Drives: 1970 chevelle Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Central NH Posts: 1,438	i have 2300 on my 18 zl1 1le and do not have that issue __________________ On Order 2018 ZL1 1LE Garnet Red Tint Coat Metallic MY Car 2015 Z06 Z07 Daytona Sunrise Orange Metallic Dads Car 2013 ZL1 vin 963 Crystal Red Tint Coat/Black Wheels Exposed Carbon Fiber Insert 6 Spd Manual

03-06-2025, 11:05 PM	#4
arpad_m Drives: 2018 Camaro 2SS A8 Join Date: Jul 2017 Location: East Tennessee Posts: 13,149 View My Garage	Instead of listening to that foreman, check out this thread: https://www.camaro6.com/forums/showthread.php?t=586153 __________________ 2018 Camaro 2SS — G7E MX0 NPP F55 IO6 735 rwhp \| 665 rwtq Magnuson TVS 2300 80mm pulley \| Kooks 1 7/8" LT headers \| JRE smooth idle terminator cam \| LT4 FS & injectors \| TSP forged pistons & rods JMS PowerMAX \| DSX flex fuel kit \| Roto-Fab CAI \| Soler 95mm LT5 TB \| 1LE wheels \| 1LE brakes \| BMR rear cradle lockout \| JRE custom tune 1100 - 1/30/18 \| 2000 - 1/31/18 3000 - 2/06/18 TPW 2/26/18 3400 - 2/19/18 \| 3800 - 2/26/18 4300 - 2/27/18 \| 4B00 - 3/01/18 4200 - 3/05/18 \| 4800 - 3/14/18 5000 - 3/16/18 \| 6000 - 3/19/18

03-06-2025, 11:15 PM	#5
JoeCamaro444 Drives: 2018 2SS M6 Hot Wheels Camaro Join Date: Mar 2017 Location: MA Posts: 642	I have approximately 1800 miles on my 2018 Hot Wheels 2SS, and never have any issues like yours. It sounds like they’re lost, and trying to pass the buck on figuring it out for you. Best of luck on this! __________________ 2018 2SS M6 Hot Wheels Camaro loaded (Moonroof, Magnetic Ride Control, NPP, etc…) Previous cars: 2017 1SS Nightfall Gray Metallic w/A8 and NPP 1988 IROC-Z (tons of mods), 1995 Z28, 1998 Z28, 2006 GTO, 2010 Camaro 1SS, 2015 Subaru STI, a couple Acuras and multiple Jeeps. Last edited by JoeCamaro444; 03-07-2025 at 02:40 AM.

03-07-2025, 04:55 PM	#14
Dynamical Drives: 2022 Camaro LT1 A10 Join Date: Nov 2015 Location: new england Posts: 570	"don’t drive it enough" Sounds like he's just making fun of the situation because of the low miles you have. So yeah, it's stupid. I didn't realize the newer cars had this issue with the starter. I thought that was the older 6gens. If that was my car, I would be adding a ground wire just like the other dudes have had to do. If that fixes it then great. If not, I would look to see if powermaster makes an LT1 starter. No starting issues yet (knock on wood) on my 22 with 10-11k miles on it. __________________ 2022 Camaro LT1 A10 - Drag Pack/Corsa double X pipe/AWE track axleback -11.849@118.67MPH/1.798 60' 2001 Camaro SS A4 - HCI/Stall/Bolt-on/Gear/Tune/DR/Diet - 429HP/392TQ - 10.99@123.58MPH/1.584 60' 1998 Camaro Z28 A4 - Bolt-on 1999 Camaro Z28 A4 - Stock

03-06-2025, 10:28 PM	#3
bishopts Drives: 2017 2ss 6mt Join Date: Mar 2024 Location: dallas Posts: 941	seems like a key issue

03-07-2025, 12:10 AM	#6
cgdelena Drives: 2019 2SS Join Date: Mar 2019 Location: WA Posts: 98	My son had the same problem with his Traverse. Turned out to be a starter with heat problems and the problem was completely solved with a new starter.

03-07-2025, 05:27 AM	#9
Warrior102 USCG Retired (MKC) Drives: 2018 2SS 1LE Black Join Date: Aug 2018 Location: Cape Cod Posts: 673	Follow the links provided it's a well known issue with a $15 fix.

03-07-2025, 10:59 AM	#10
Itethai Drives: ‘23 SS M6 vert Join Date: Nov 2022 Location: Hill Country, Texas Posts: 27	Yep, the dealership is trying to deny its heat soaking issues last year. The only way they would look at the issue is if it could be replicated at the dealership “per GM”. Took there five times and couldn’t replicate , sixth time finally didn’t start at the dealership. They changed the battery after having my car for two days. That’s why I mentioned about having to play their game again.

03-07-2025, 11:04 AM	#11
Itethai Drives: ‘23 SS M6 vert Join Date: Nov 2022 Location: Hill Country, Texas Posts: 27	It’s not a slow crank, all I hear is a relay click under the hood and nothing.

03-07-2025, 12:01 PM	#12
Rnovrit Drives: 2018 NFG ZL1-1LE Join Date: Jun 2018 Location: Near the water Posts: 354	Starter issue like posted already. These cars are notorious for hot start problems. Adding the ground cable will help for sure. In some cases the slow crank over time damages the starter due to excessive amperage draw. My suggestion would be replace the starter and add an additional ground strap/wire from the engine to chassis. Some guys add the wire on the front area of the engine like already described. Others, including myself, added the wire from the bell housing area near the starter to an existing ground stud above and to the passenger side of the transmission under the car.

03-07-2025, 03:28 PM	#13
Abubaca Drives: 2016 SS Join Date: Oct 2019 Location: Sophia, NC Posts: 620	With regard to adding an additional ground, I'd always add it in a place that others have already done without issue. I know the Silverado's have issues with certain sensors NOT reading voltage properly when people have added grounds in the wrongs spots. I guess some factory grounds will actually ground THROUGH a sensor. A new ground provides a new path for electricity to flow though. LOTS of people on the truck forums will tell you BETTER grounds not MORE grounds. Not sure if that's a Camaro thing, BUT....can't hurt to be mindful of that.

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