Talked myself out of skip shift and now maybe

FarmerFran · 03-19-2020, 04:04 PM

the catch can. Does a NA engine really need it? I guess $200 isn't bad for piece of mind but, really?

I put one on my 2004 GTO that had a full engine build (heads, cam, headers, full exhaust etc..) and never got any oil worth mentioning in it.

As for skip shift, I just start a tad harder and it's just fine.

Aragorn · 03-19-2020, 04:12 PM

This is sort of a contentious issue with lots of threads. My cc catches a couple of oz every three months. Weekend car.

FarmerFran · 03-19-2020, 05:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Aragorn

This is sort of a contentious issue with lots of threads. My cc catches a couple of oz every three months. Weekend car.

Thanks for the info.

Yeah, so back to my point of -- is $200 really that bad

FH212 · 03-19-2020, 05:37 PM

Your going to get various and sometimes venomous debates on the catch can. I just installed one a few months ago. I figure it cant hurt so why not. I installed the skip shift day one. I couldn't stand the gear lockout when having to go slow. One of these days you will get frustrated enough to get it.

LT4Greg · 03-19-2020, 06:23 PM

You really don’t need a skip shift eliminator because all you do is give it more gas and it goes to the next gear! I never experience it in my ZL1 because I’m pushing down on the gas pedal more. The catch can though is another story and if you feel comfortable installing one then do it! Keep in mind though some dealers void the warranty when you do install one. It’s been noted on threads in this forum.

LT4Greg · 03-19-2020, 06:26 PM

So is it worth $200 then you have to decide. Many other folks here have them so it’s up to the individual that owns the car!

Canadian Steve · 03-19-2020, 08:57 PM

Another way around the skip shift is to let the shifter pop over to neutral as you come out of first, then shift into second. It seems like the move to neutral prevents locking out of second. When you're driving slow enough that the skip shift kicks in, the extra second to move through neutral is not even noticeable.

JCunningham · 03-20-2020, 01:22 AM

you ever had someone in front of you slow down and you couldnt give it more gas. ill take the skip shift. yes a catch can is needed on direct injection engines because there is no fuel to clean the valves. So every bit you remove helps.

SixgenSix · 03-20-2020, 05:40 PM

I use skip shift every now and then when I'm feeling lazy LOL.

GroundhogSS · 03-20-2020, 10:20 PM

After about 3000 miles, I had about one third of a can full in the Mishimoto. I think it's worth it.

B8TTYVILLEKID · 03-20-2020, 10:43 PM

After a few years of modern muscle cars catch cans are a religious argument in my opinion. The folks that pay for them are big supporters, the folks that don't, don't. me I choose the no catch can route. I don't drive my car so hard that I need one.

Memphis SS · 03-21-2020, 09:13 AM

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Originally Posted by LT4Greg

The catch can though is another story and if you feel comfortable installing one then do it! Keep in mind though some dealers void the warranty when you do install one. It’s been noted on threads in this forum.

I agree, I’ve checked with the dealers in my area and didn’t get a good response regarding installing one. While people and even manufacturers on the forum will tell you that by law GM has to prove it was caused by the catch can you’re going to have to pay for a motor or repair and then fight it or leave your car at the dealer until it’s resolved. That is not an option I prefer on my car. To each his own regarding that one. It’s been beat to death here for sure.

Fraxum · 03-21-2020, 09:28 AM

My opinion on the catch can is it makes sense on a modded car that sees more than a bit of all out runs at high rpm. On a stocker on the street I wouldn't bother, but if you buy a nice one it looks cool and doesn't hurt. Just remeber to empty it once in a while.

As for the skip shift I agree with the OP. Chevy made it less intrusive on the CA6. It was the first mod on all my 5th gens.

Deputy Dog · 03-21-2020, 12:09 PM

Skip Shift has never been an issue for me because when I'm going that slow anyway I skip 2 and go to 3rd naturally so I don't get locked and still save gas.

03-19-2020, 04:04 PM	#1
FarmerFran Drives: 2023 ZL1 Vert M6 "Sharky" Join Date: Mar 2020 Location: Earth Posts: 4,559	Talked myself out of skip shift and now maybe the catch can. Does a NA engine really need it? I guess $200 isn't bad for piece of mind but, really? I put one on my 2004 GTO that had a full engine build (heads, cam, headers, full exhaust etc..) and never got any oil worth mentioning in it. As for skip shift, I just start a tad harder and it's just fine.

03-19-2020, 05:37 PM	#4
FH212 Drives: 2015 Camaro Z/28 Join Date: May 2009 Location: NM Posts: 930	Your going to get various and sometimes venomous debates on the catch can. I just installed one a few months ago. I figure it cant hurt so why not. I installed the skip shift day one. I couldn't stand the gear lockout when having to go slow. One of these days you will get frustrated enough to get it. __________________ 2015 Camaro Z/28 - Red Hot 1978 Trans Am Y88 Special Edition 400/4 speed 2001 Mecham Trans Am #3 - 7.0L LS1

03-19-2020, 06:23 PM	#5
LT4Greg Drives: 2017 Camaro ZL1 Coupe Join Date: May 2016 Location: Georgia Posts: 5,869	You really don’t need a skip shift eliminator because all you do is give it more gas and it goes to the next gear! I never experience it in my ZL1 because I’m pushing down on the gas pedal more. The catch can though is another story and if you feel comfortable installing one then do it! Keep in mind though some dealers void the warranty when you do install one. It’s been noted on threads in this forum. __________________ ZL1 Coupe, PDR, Exposed carbon fiber hood insert, My Link with Nav, M6 6 speed and Silver Ice Metallic. Mods done: ceramic window tint, GM Accessories Camaro floor mats and Roto-Fab CAI.

03-19-2020, 06:26 PM	#6
LT4Greg Drives: 2017 Camaro ZL1 Coupe Join Date: May 2016 Location: Georgia Posts: 5,869	So is it worth $200 then you have to decide. Many other folks here have them so it’s up to the individual that owns the car! __________________ ZL1 Coupe, PDR, Exposed carbon fiber hood insert, My Link with Nav, M6 6 speed and Silver Ice Metallic. Mods done: ceramic window tint, GM Accessories Camaro floor mats and Roto-Fab CAI.

03-19-2020, 08:57 PM	#7
Canadian Steve Drives: 2019 Camaro SS Convertible Join Date: Apr 2019 Location: Ajax, Ontario, Canada Posts: 59	Another way around the skip shift is to let the shifter pop over to neutral as you come out of first, then shift into second. It seems like the move to neutral prevents locking out of second. When you're driving slow enough that the skip shift kicks in, the extra second to move through neutral is not even noticeable. __________________ 2019 Camaro 2SS Convertible Shadow Grey Metallic with Adrenaline Red Interior 6MT, MRC, NPP, Carbon Flash wheels w/ SS wheel caps

03-19-2020, 04:12 PM	#2
Aragorn Account Suspended Drives: Camaro SS 1LE Join Date: Aug 2018 Location: Phoenix Posts: 1,538	This is sort of a contentious issue with lots of threads. My cc catches a couple of oz every three months. Weekend car.

03-20-2020, 01:22 AM	#8
JCunningham Drives: 2017 2SS M6 Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: WNY Posts: 7,069	you ever had someone in front of you slow down and you couldnt give it more gas. ill take the skip shift. yes a catch can is needed on direct injection engines because there is no fuel to clean the valves. So every bit you remove helps. __________________ real ZL1 wheels and brakes, 285/305 Michelin Pilot Super Sports, Pray ported Intake manifold, Soler Throttle Body, Rotofab intake, EFI Tuning Flex fuel kit, full American Racing Headers Exhaust, 1 7/8" w/ cats H pipe and mufflers. Full 1LE suspension, with BMR adjustable sway bars and links, GM aluminum cradle bushings, Hurst shifter with lighter reverse spring, TWM shifter knob, Tick level 1 transmission. I should have bought a ZL1

03-20-2020, 05:40 PM	#9
SixgenSix Drives: 2020 SHOCK SS 1LE Join Date: Sep 2016 Location: Southern California Posts: 384	I use skip shift every now and then when I'm feeling lazy LOL.

03-20-2020, 10:20 PM	#10
GroundhogSS Drives: '17 2SS convertible'20 Yukon Denali Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Cedar Park, Texas Posts: 3,021	After about 3000 miles, I had about one third of a can full in the Mishimoto. I think it's worth it. __________________ Richard 2017 2SS SIM convertible, A8, NPP, MRC, 56R wheels, GM CAI, Diode Dynamics Side Markers, Mamo Throttle Body Delivered: 08/15/2016 #TeamBeckyD

03-20-2020, 10:43 PM	#11
B8TTYVILLEKID Drives: 2019 Chevrolet Camaro 2 SS Join Date: Aug 2019 Location: Melbourne Florida Posts: 89	After a few years of modern muscle cars catch cans are a religious argument in my opinion. The folks that pay for them are big supporters, the folks that don't, don't. me I choose the no catch can route. I don't drive my car so hard that I need one.

03-21-2020, 09:28 AM	#13
Fraxum Drives: a M6 LT1 ordered From Becky!!! Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: NJ Posts: 7,520	My opinion on the catch can is it makes sense on a modded car that sees more than a bit of all out runs at high rpm. On a stocker on the street I wouldn't bother, but if you buy a nice one it looks cool and doesn't hurt. Just remeber to empty it once in a while. As for the skip shift I agree with the OP. Chevy made it less intrusive on the CA6. It was the first mod on all my 5th gens. __________________ "Democracy Dies in Darkness" My LT1 Keeper ..... ..... My Car Blog CarPlayList, a free App to build USB and Android Music drives.

03-21-2020, 12:09 PM	#14
Deputy Dog Banned Drives: 2017 Super Sport Cam. Join Date: Feb 2018 Location: US Posts: 893	Skip Shift has never been an issue for me because when I'm going that slow anyway I skip 2 and go to 3rd naturally so I don't get locked and still save gas.

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