[Sledgehammer70]

Tuning and putting E85 on a 6th Gen 2LT V6. How much power will it gain? Well we honestly don't know the base base numbers as the car was running like such dog crap with the GM CAI without a tune. But we do know that E85 will give you roughly a 5% gain in power. We also know these cars dyno around 240-260 from previous testing, so we have that.

[viewska]

Thanks for this!

Its good info for those of us looking to make power out of the v6

[jingaling]

Thanks for the info... They're probably about an hour away from me.

[Dustya]

remove the stupid 155mph limit re dyno get horsepower.. The biggest thing with tuning this car is removing the MPH limit so you can actually dyno it in proper gear at proper RPM.. The v6 dyno at 240 hp is almost 100 hp less then crank hp stated by factory its kinda dumb IMHO..

So this is great info and fantastic for everyone to see. Good job as always Lethal.

[thescreensavers]

Originally Posted by Dustya

remove the stupid 155mph limit re dyno get horsepower.. The biggest thing with tuning this car is removing the MPH limit so you can actually dyno it in proper gear at proper RPM.. The v6 dyno at 240 hp is almost 100 hp less then crank hp stated by factory its kinda dumb IMHO..

So this is great info and fantastic for everyone to see. Good job as always Lethal.

Don't forget the speed limiter isn't just for tires but also the driveshaft.

[jdasnt3]

Originally Posted by Dustya

remove the stupid 155mph limit re dyno get horsepower.. The biggest thing with tuning this car is removing the MPH limit so you can actually dyno it in proper gear at proper RPM.. The v6 dyno at 240 hp is almost 100 hp less then crank hp stated by factory its kinda dumb IMHO..

So this is great info and fantastic for everyone to see. Good job as always Lethal.

RWHP and crank HP are two different numbers. Plus, there are several types of dynos and environmental conditions to consider. Use dyno numbers with a grain of salt. My experience is to use them to show how mods helped. For me, we started with 400 to the wheels stock and then went to 421 with a ported TB and tune. Now we are at 462 with E85, CAI, ported TB, and ported intake. All using the same dyno and at about the same environmental conditions.

At the track, comparing my car side by side with an Overkill SCd gen 6 V6, we pulled on it really hard and ran 12.2@114 to his 13.4@104 in really bad air. We dyno in FL about 80 more to the wheels than the SCd V6 so it makes sense both at the track and on the dyno.

[Dustya]

Originally Posted by jdasnt3

RWHP and crank HP are two different numbers. Plus, there are several types of dynos and environmental conditions to consider. Use dyno numbers with a grain of salt. My experience is to use them to show how mods helped. For me, we started with 400 to the wheels stock and then went to 421 with a ported TB and tune. Now we are at 462 with E85, CAI, ported TB, and ported intake. All using the same dyno and at about the same environmental conditions.

At the track, comparing my car side by side with an Overkill SCd gen 6 V6, we pulled on it really hard and ran 12.2@114 to his 13.4@104 in really bad air. We dyno in FL about 80 more to the wheels than the SCd V6 so it makes sense both at the track and on the dyno.

You are making my whole point right here, in the SS you can get a good base pull because you can get a full pull.. on the v6 you cannot get a good base number prior to mods because of the speed limiter ( Hence the whole reason of the dyno ) So it looks artificial you almost need to do 2 baseline dyno's one before and one after speed limiter removed so that after your mods you can see what you are really gaining.
Its very misconstrued data we got 240 base and 290 with tune and e85.. But not really.. Because I am sure that initial tune removed the 155mph limiter.. So we can get a real full 5th gear pull - Also not sure what gear the e85 dyno was done in all this information helps in comparing apples to apples

also you were comparing side to side with a non finalized car not saying its going to go low 12's but your comment has no bearing on the conversation at hand here. Finalized Dyno tuning and other things were done well after that track day ( Sorry I have to defend I am sure you understand ) :-) I mean this is the nicest way possible just sounds kinda rude.

[jdasnt3]

Originally Posted by Dustya

You are making my whole point right here, in the SS you can get a good base pull because you can get a full pull.. on the v6 you cannot get a good base number prior to mods because of the speed limiter ( Hence the whole reason of the dyno ) So it looks artificial you almost need to do 2 baseline dyno's one before and one after speed limiter removed so that after your mods you can see what you are really gaining.
Its very misconstrued data we got 240 base and 290 with tune and e85.. But not really.. Because I am sure that initial tune removed the 155mph limiter.. So we can get a real full 5th gear pull - Also not sure what gear the e85 dyno was done in all this information helps in comparing apples to apples

also you were comparing side to side with a non finalized car not saying its going to go low 12's but your comment has no bearing on the conversation at hand here. Finalized Dyno tuning and other things were done well after that track day ( Sorry I have to defend I am sure you understand ) :-) I mean this is the nicest way possible just sounds kinda rude.

Didn't sound rude st all. And thanks for the clarification. You sir, are correct in my opinion.

[Dustya]

Originally Posted by jdasnt3

Didn't sound rude st all. And thanks for the clarification. You sir, are correct in my opinion.

Thanks for being active in the v6 section as well its good to see others looking in here!!!

[jdasnt3]

Originally Posted by Dustya

Thanks for being active in the v6 section as well its good to see others looking in here!!!

You're welcome. I love all Camaros and would gladly own any of the engine/trans combos.

[Sledgehammer70]

Originally Posted by cooper1965

People should consider, alot of dyno's arn't really meant to operate at those speeds, and who knows the effect of accuracy?

I think its funny NO one is addressing the problem with I4/V6 platforms,.... We need flex fuel capability.!!! Yesterday..!

The E82 ECU has not been hacked to allow flex-fuel and the E80 is like a black hole (The i4 ecu).

Don't be taken by some of these sites selling E85 kits for the V6... their pin outs are all for the e92 ecu, which the V6 lacks.

[lgx6113]

very well done! too bad cant get it anywhere close to me in dirty jersey